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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We did the same for The Talos Principle Wiki.

The community is hosting its own MediaWiki rather than rely on Fandom.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Monster Hunter community just did the same: https://monsterhunterwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

Folks finally got tired of the several horrible options and did it themselves. There’s also a discord for coordinating contributions if so inclined.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 days ago

Honorary mention of Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages, which existed as a fan documentation hub since the mid 90s.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Same for us with the Cyber Knights: Flashpoint wiki. More devs should learn that self-hosting a community wiki for their game is not that hard.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Good to see we're finally fighting back against Fandom

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

Fandom is icky. A few years ago, my mom was getting scammed by some conspiracy guy from LinkedIn who offered her a “job.”

These dudes set up their own fandom wiki to try to make their bullshit seem real. I can’t remember the name of the people involved but one guy was claiming that he was owed 300 trillion dollars by the government. (Can’t remember the exact number but it was astronomically high. More money than exists kinda high)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

A lot of devs of "wiki games" have been doing this lately.

Digital Extremes/Warframe did it a month or two back. And a lot of people have speculated that https://wiki.warframe.com/w/WARFRAME_Wiki:Stakeholder_Analysis and the old fandom equivalent "explains" it but that is inherently tinfoil and biased speculation.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Just wanted to point out that wiki.gg is out there as a replacement. There's even a wiki.gg Redirect plugin for Firefox that takes you to the right place, if you hit a Fandom link.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

and then wiki.gg gets bought, as other wikis got. No thanks.

Write content in a community mediawiki maintained by the community instead.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Instructions unclear.

Locked it behind a Discord community instead. 🤡

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

I know this is a joke.

But seriously from my heart

Fuck you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Guess whose doing an IPO and will sell all its data plus get advertisements everywhere? Yep, Discord..

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

For anyone looking for a wonderful example of this, check out the RuneScape wiki. It’s hosted by a company that is partnered with the game maker, and is fully maintained by the community. It is the single most expansive and in-depth wiki I have ever seen. It is truly the gold standard for what a wiki should aspire to be.

It has everything you could need to play the game, all the way down to automatic calculators (with built in character lookup functionality, using the game’s high score leaderboard system) to tell you things like how many of [x] resource you’ll need to get [y] experience, or what your estimated return on investment will be for turning [x] resource into [y] product.

The game has over 250 quests, (and not just basic fetch or kill quests like most MMO’s have) and the wiki has in-depth walkthroughs (including in-game screenshots) for every single one.

You can even open the wiki directly from the game. There’s a “Wiki” button on the chat box, so you can search the wiki directly via chat, and it opens in your desktop browser.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

It took many years and plenty of iteration to make it there. It feels like a fever dream remembering the days Sal's realm and tip.it were king. Remember when the game map wasn't even in game, they just had a image linked at the top of the webpage?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Relative to a fandom wiki: I guess? Although you are inherently going to have the same content theft problems where the vast majority of modern wikis are just ripped from the game guides that games media are still paid to prepare.

Relative to an official wiki with developer backing? No, it is not a replacement.

Also: I would generally be very wary of any of the plugins to redirect you since they have VERY broad permissions to... hijack your browser traffic. If you are keeping up to date and monitoring them you are probably fine but that feels like a great example in waiting to find out a bad actor pushed some code last week...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

ublock origin and firefox.

no ads, no popups. game wikis are a breeze to use for me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Breezewiki?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

This pleases me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Very nice to see. Might start playing again to 100% it (yet again) now that there's an actual useful wiki for it. Always love to see pure media wiki usage. I wish we could just scrub Fandom's one now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Another step was made to reclaim the free internet! I bought dlc inside the game and I'm glad I did.

[–] [email protected] 156 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Good! Hopefully more devs follow suit and pull traffic away from Fandom.

Also hopeful that they manage to fix the SEO on the site, as Fandom is still the top result for "Vampire Survivors wiki".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Well, GGG hosts their community wikis since years too...

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Try the browser add-on Indie Wiki Buddy.

It suggests a better wiki when you browse one on Fandom.

edit: there is an open issue to add the official Vampire Survivors wiki: https://github.com/KevinPayravi/indie-wiki-buddy/issues/1102

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Just to add on to this, in those unfortunate cases where there really is only Fandom, you can use an extension like LibRedirect which will redirect any Fandom pages to a breezewiki instance, which is a stripped down, privacy respecting, no BS front end for Fandom.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same with the Terraria wiki. Afaik the fandom wiki is mostly abandoned and people moved to the much better gg wiki.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

The Oxygen Not Included wiki made the jump a few years ago and the gg wiki seems to finally be better referenced

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I avoid using fandom like it’s contagious. It’s so cluttered, when my blockers on images don’t load half the time. It’s a slow site.

It’s really the worst, I’d rather scrub through a YouTube video to find the answer I’m looking for rather than go to a fandom site.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You might like the indie wiki buddy extension, it can automatically redirect you to a independent wiki when you go to fandom (if there is one), remove fandom search results, and redirect you to a 'breeze wiki' page if there's no fandom alternative

(Breeze wiki is an alternative frontend for fandom, much like invidious for YouTube. It guts all the ads and banners and garbage, and gives you a much simpler wiki page)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you browse a lot on mobile and cannot install extensions, all you have to do is replace the "fandom" in the fandom wiki URL with "antifandom"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Oh nice! I use firefox on mobile so I can still use extensions (just have to enable developer settings), but that's super handy for folks who don't have that option!

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Best thing that happened to path of exile too, the devs provide the wiki platform for the community

https://www.poewiki.net/

Very based

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Guild Wars 2 (and 1) wiki is also hosted directly by the devs. It's even accessible via chat command.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

The fact that in GW2 you can just type

/wiki subject

and get taken to the wiki page for subject is such an amazing and obvious command I'm surprised more games don't do it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Not only that but GW2 also can link items and skills in the chat so that someone else can view them. And the best part is that this also works with the wiki command.

So, for example, you found an item and want to know what it is and what you can use to for, just link it after /wiki and you are redirected to the full page of that item.

Unfortunately, I lately have issues with firefox in which the first wiki command somehow screws with my firefox and thinks that it needs to restart before being able to work correctly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Goddamn that's awesome. Had no idea after hundreds of GW2 hours.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Here's the most useful one, IMO:

/wiki et

It takes you to the event timers page, so you can see when the world events are going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I also like /wiki ezd which opens a page telling you how to quickly do the daily and weekly objectives.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Same thing happened with minecraft.wiki too, people finally got fed up with fandom's bullshit

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

That's not the same, Mojang isn't affiliated with the wiki at all.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Same with doomwiki.org and a bunch of others.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

osrs.wiki lets just list them all

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm surprised the OSRS wiki isn't mentioned more. The game itself is very community oriented as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

OSRS wiki is BY FAR the best wiki in the entire industry.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Based dev. Fuck fextralife and fandom

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago

fextralife

Sometimes it feels like fextralife is filled only with stub articles.

me: "Hmm, I wonder about [a thing] in [a game]"

fextralife's entire article: "[A thing] is a thing in [a game]"

brilliant, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Wat?! Fandom has ads?! Never saw these. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

They have taken the survivors.wiki domain.

I wonder if they are planning spinoffs with other themes?

Edit: typo

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