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Call Them. Replace Them. (slrpnk.net)

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[-] [email protected] 63 points 3 months ago

[-] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago

WTF who invited Cruella de Vil to Congress?

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

The rational people of Georgia, of course!

[-] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago

I called my representative and I was polite. "Hello, I just want to say that as a WA state resident, I am very disappointed by my representative licking Donald Trump's boots by voting to censure Al Green. Thank you and goodbye."

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Did you have to talk to someone or did you just leave a message?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Somebody answered, I said my piece, then I hung up. I was not interested in having a conversation about it.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago

This post has about as much context as a map drawn by a blindfolded pirate. What is this all about?

[-] [email protected] 62 points 3 months ago

Well, 10 Democrats voted to censure another Democrat as noted in the image. The underlying context is that Greene was heckling Der Furher when he was having a spell of verbal diarrhea when speaking in the fascist Empire council chamber.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago

The 10 Democrats that voted with the Republicans to censure congressman Green.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5180324-10-house-democrats-censure-al-green/

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Cheers! I work in tech and don’t know many US politicians so I read that as “A.I. Green” 🤖🟩

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

If it makes you feel better, he did sing to protest his censure.

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c5y03q5wz4go

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

For Americans it has all the context, it's pretty crystal clear

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

It's unclear what the fuck it's about: a shitpost.

Don't know why Lemmy Shitpost is all politics now. It kinda ruins what I came here for.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but censures mean fuckall, right? It's basically saying "you were naughty and I'm doing nothing about it"?

[-] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It’s mostly symbolic. But the last thing we need is democrats scoring own goals, and stopping actual action against tyranny

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I agree. Just making sure it was just some weird optics things and not an actual way to quiet him.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

If he was given extra responsibilities like being in some committee he could lose those, but in this case i don’t think that’s a concern.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

This is a shit post now ?

[-] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Nah I’m gonna tell them they best start looking for another job.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Call all the Republicans, too.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

I mean you can, but they’re going to outright ignore you.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Benedict Arnold

Who?

[-] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

He was an American who betrayed the US to the British during the American Revolution.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

America’s original Judas. Look him up.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Can you fuck off with your shitty third world politics from literally every community?

[+] [email protected] -8 points 3 months ago

There is a case to be made for not joining the race to the bottom. But likely these people constituents would be in favor of them voting this way. And in the end, that is who they are supposed to represent.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

We're pretty damn near the bottom, bud. We need active resistance not polite words.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I think an awful lot of people around the world would argue we are nowhere near the bottom.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Attempting to grow a fascist dictatorship, with some success and even support, sure feels near the bottom of government dysfunction to me. But part of what makes all this so maddening is the difficulty in accurately assessing the situation. I acknowledge that in 4 years I may feel that my worries today were overblown, and I sure hope so!

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I know it feels like it. But you could be in North Korea. That's pretty close to rock bottom with very little hope of ever improving.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I guess I'm not sure what argument you're making. My argument is that asking Congress to uphold decorum is a mistake when you have bad faith actors (fascists) taking advantage of their good will. And you seem to be saying that no, they should still behave politely because we aren't among the absolute worst governments? If that's how you feel, where is your line? What government posture merits abandoning the traditions and norms that your opponents have long since jettisoned and which they now use cynically to thwart your own high-minded efforts?

I hope I'm not being uncharitable towards you. Maybe it's more like "we both got bogged down in defining details and we lost the thread", that's a thing that happens all too often lol.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Well a big part of it all is that the interruption doesn't really make a difference. It's a show, likely done to get attention on himself. If it were to be something very effective, that would be another story. But it will start us down a path where the chamber will resemble a WWE production. The original point though was that if the constituency of the dems that voted yes, support that vote, then they did thier job in representing thier voters. So that's okay. If every vote follows strict party lines our government will be even more of a pendulum than it currently is. Swinging wildly to which ever side currently has the power.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Ah okay. Well I'm with you on part of it, if the people who voted them in agree / would have wanted that, then yes it is appropriate for them to have taken that vote. I do not want politicians deciding for us what we really want / need, full stop. With you there.

Not really with you that it's the job of Dems at all to keep the Congress from becoming a circus. I'm trying to be pragmatic and realistic, I'm aware that Al Green's performance doesn't directly translate to the federal government being suddenly less effective at its crimes and abuses.

But please, remember that whatever your own life circumstances and status, there are very vulnerable people who are being hurt now, and these people want to hurt them worse and more. The people attacking and abusing our countrymen do not respect morality or the rule of law, in any capacity - WE DO NOT OWE THEM CIVILITY and I posit that we have nothing to gain from being civil with them. We need everyone with a microphone to be screeching that they are abusive monsters, daily, disrupting any and everything they attempt to do. They did it to the ACA which tried to be the most compassionate legislation we've seen in a generation, they've done it to every damn thing else that had a hope of helping Americans, we owe them nothing more than the basic human rights we owe anyone.

But we can agree to disagree too, I don't pretend to have all the answers and have been wrong many times in my life. Cheers friend.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I agree we don't owe them anything. And if being uncivil will make a difference, I am all for it. But if it won't help, then let's stay civil. In this specific case, if the floor of the house becomes a circus, people will start voting for clowns intentionally. Because it will become a required skill. I would rather it not. We already have too many clowns in there as is. And someday I hope it can go back a bit toward what it is supposed to be. A place for compromise. Though I do admit that I don't have a lot of hope.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

That's a consistent and reasonable point of view, and I share your hopes. Cheers.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There's another path, where we vote in loud angry people that do not compromise with fascists, call them what they are at every opportunity, and who do not extend civility toward people who never intend to extend that in good faith themselves.

I called it a circus, I guess when I think about it more, the circus has been here for a while. Or at least, the "more about appearances/performances than effects" carnival has been running uninterrupted for years.

Like you, I wish for a more reasonable and productive and earnest future for our politics. We won't get that by being soft with people who do not share any of our values. I still think you're assuming good faith efforts that are not there, naively, and I still hope you're right and I'm wrong.

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