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He now claims the crowd was full of “Democrats operatives” and not angry constituents lol

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago

And by far most of these booing voters will just vote for this very same guy again the next time he's up for reelection. Rural voters have been so predictable it's why these politicians can just walk away from town halls like this, they know they still have the votes.

[–] [email protected] 168 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

He now claims the crowd was full of “Democrats operatives” and not angry constituents lol

Here's the thing I don't get about this. Let's say they are Democrats. So what? Like it or not, he's still their representative, and they have the right to have their voices heard just as much as Republican voters. Angry Democrat constituents in your district are still angry constituents.

If they think that the town halls are being filled with "Democrat operatives", what's stopping them from inviting a whole bunch of Republicans to drown them out?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And if they arent democrats, it's political suicide to claim they are.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

No, it's not. The loudest dumbest Magas will believe and echo this sentiment until these people fall in line. We've seen them bend the truth time and time again like this.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, he set up a softball town hall meeting in a deep red county of under 3,000 people so he KNOWS those damn demonrats are from out of town!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

Since when can his constituents travel?!

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago

Yucca Valley, a republican city where you’d regularly see Trump flags everywhere, trashed their local rep when he came by recently.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

what's stopping them from inviting a whole bunch of Republicans to drown them out?

they couldn't find enough of those people because that many of them (that aren't pissed at at least something the fucktard, dipshit, and furniture molester are doing) don't actually exist, and they couldn't afford to pay enough people or actors to fake it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

they couldn't afford to pay enough people or actors to fake it.

The billionaire party can't afford this, but apparently George Soros alone has no problem paying "democrat operatives". If this were the case, wouldn't these capitalist-worshiping losers be praising Soros for being such a brilliant billionaire capitalist?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Imagine being the richest person in the world and still not having enough money to pay people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

the billionaires at the top don't give a shit about a lowly first-term senator from rural central kansas, a state whose voters have elected only one democrat to the u.s. senate....ever (in the 1930s). the only other two democrats to serve in the u.s. senate, eight years combined between them, representing kansas was even earlier than that back when the state legislature chose them.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I know it is easy to say lemmy is an echo chamber, but look at Kansas's voting history. We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg.

A lot of the programs and cuts DOG-e is doing has not taken effect yet due to the courts. Give it a 8 months to a year. Middle America will be in big trouble if the cuts proceed.

https://ballotpedia.org/Meade_County,_Kansas,_elections,_2023

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The interesting thing about Lemmy being an echo chamber is that I feel like it is the 4th or 5th echo chamber I've been accused of being in.

It's starting to seem like voter suppression and propaganda were the real problems after all and not people like us being "in an echo chamber."

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The problem is that democratically driven content feeds tend to favor the predominant idea only. The very mechanism of "likes" or "upvotes" is literally what creates the echo chamber.

You ever start to write a comment and then change the way you're articulating yourself, or decide not to post it altogether because it requires nuance and more explanation than you're willing to give? That's the force of an echo chamber, it creates homogeneity.

Basically any content platform with voting systems creates content silos.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Mastodon gets the same accusation as well and there's no up voting or algorithm at play. What does seem true is that each environment is representative of those who participate. Reddit is 20+% trolls and bad faith for any major sub and conversations reflect that.

In general, my primary complaint to the echo chamber argument is that if everywhere you go, all you can find are echo chambers, then maybe they're not echo chambers and actually reflecting the population?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Doesn't providing nuance counter the homogeneity? Also what's the alternative? Algorithmically promotes content? But those create even more of an echo chamber as you only see what the algo thinks you'll personally engage with.

I guess meeting in person might be better - but even then your neighborhood is probably rather classist so idk how much you'd end up not in an echo chamber either :/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

But it doesn’t really matter. As long as one uses multiple apps/forums, I.e different echo chambers, and touches grass in Wild West spaces from time to time, like reality, it’s all fine.

I think the effect of echo chambers is just altogether overblown, and also the natural inclination for a human to just stay in one place, not being curious to peek behind other curtains from time to time. The latter is one of the key traits of our species, we are just simply too curious to ever be completely taken by echo chambers. The individuals with less curiosity and more inclination to stay in place, not change anything, may have this problem more due to those traits. I.e. conservatives.

As long as ones curious and doesn’t explicitly communicate with other humans in one dedicated space, it’s all fine. It’s actively harmful to our psyche to be exposed to something like 4chan or Tate brothers academy just for the sake of not being in an echo chamber.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Nuance only sometimes counters the homogeneity, I think. People tend to respond highly emotionally when things are anonymous, no matter how strucured the content is. That's why rage bait dominates our headlines! I don't know. I certainly dont know a better approach. I haven't really thought about it tbh. The modus operandi felt like it worked until it didn't. Now look at us.

What's "best for most" isn't ever really gonna be best. But I have no idea how we best go about curating a digital society that is both democratic and not an echo chamber.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Also places like reddit will have subs that will ban you for the slightest nuance, or misconstrued comment

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

The presidential vote is not a complete picture. Kansas regularly votes in Democratic governors and they voted in favor of abortion protections. The eastern side of the state is less conservative than you might think.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And they will still blame Obama or Biden or immigrants or DEI, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They find a way to blame it on Hillary and "cackling" Kamala

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All these Antifa farmers and veterans asking questions about getting bankrupted by Elon administration policies are clearly woke trans communist activists in disguise. Be sure to tell them that when it comes time for the midterms.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Mid... terms?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago

These are the actions of a yellow bellied coward and traitor.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's CORRECT! ONLY Democrats care about Veterans!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is something that is truly baffling to me. Veterans almost universally not only vote Republican but are fervent supporters of Republican agenda and year after year, without fail, Republicans try to fuck them over specifically. It's so weird to me.

Already with this term... Veterans are beneficiaries of a shit ton of DEI programs. Like a TON. And they are actively voting to get rid of all of them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Also, the VA is massively underfunded because of them, and they'll bitch about it and still vote for the people who are trying to shut it down.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

God, the fucking assumptions people make when they find out you're a veteran! I swear people will be like, "Ah, a fellow veteran, aren't you glad they're kicking out all the trans people?" Wtf, no, you asshole!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Airport bars are the worst. I don't know how many times I'll be talking with someone that seems friendly enough just killing time. Then it will eventually get to this interaction

Where are you from?

Sigh

San Francisco

Well, let me tell you what fox news told me to think about that hellhole

Have you ever been?

Well, no, but

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yup they don't realize that, especially in colleges they are often given priority for classes

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's obviously a ruse! It can't possible be that voters are actually angry.

Now, how else can I make more money for billionares?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

how else can I make more money for billionares?

That's the agenda for his next two meetings

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They’ll still vote for him though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

correct. just a little collateral damage in exchange for some of the 'right people' getting hurt. nbd to them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Terrorize the traitors.