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Summary

Elon Musk called on retired air traffic controllers to return to work, citing a shortage amid heightened scrutiny of the FAA under Trump's second term.

With DOT Secretary Sean Duffy's support, Musk's DOGE attempts to "upgrade" aviation systems despite recent FAA job cuts.

The AP reports fired employees included radar and navigational aid maintenance personnel, though Duffy insisted no "critical safety personnel" were terminated.

Musk's appeal comes amid increased public concern over recent aviation incidents, though experts consider the uptick an anomaly.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pay more wages, the way of a free market is supply and demand

[–] [email protected] 16 points 21 hours ago

There's no such thing as a labor shortage.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago

I'm curious what the terms are going to be to get them back. Him just bloating the salaries b/c he's a moron would be on point for him.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Time to renegotiate salary!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

time to sing l'international!!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

Yes, the ask is treating ATCs as a collective; they should do some collective bargaining.

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"There is a shortage"

ah damn i love that language. reminds me of the boss that abused my mother back when she was still in employment. "there is a shortage, you need to come over on your day off, otherwise we can't handle the workload". how about employing more people? no? maybe because you can't find another fool who will do the work with these bad working conditions?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

There has been a shortage for a decade, and the post is literally Musk trying to hire early retirees to fill staffing shortages.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 21 hours ago (9 children)

There's no such thing as a labor shortage, especially if it's been long enough to train more ATCs. If the pay is high enough, then people will come out of the woodwork.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

for things like atc there is, theres a maximum age you can become one, and a max age to retire, very little exceptions outside of that.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 22 hours ago

What a joke…

[–] [email protected] 236 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Well if it isn't the consequences of his own actions.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fucked around ✅

Found out 👈

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Not really, tbh. He's pretty clearly just doing as much damage as he possibly can. This whole "Oooh whoopsie, we did a bad, does anyone want their job back?" shit is pure show to give himself some plausible deniability to keep the guillotines at bay.

If you look at what's happening through the lens of his goal being malice, and ignore the "ooooops!" pony show, what you see is a man who's hamstrung an entire nation with literally zero consequences.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

In less than a month too.

Feels like we need no confidence/snap elections or some shot to deal with this.

But really we needed better protections from dictators and better under-represented vote counting long ago and now we have to fix shit the hard way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It’s called impeachment and could happen at any time. Every single Republican is complicit with the Nazi regime.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

or some shot to deal with this.

I mean...

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 day ago (7 children)

US law mandates retirement at 56 for Air Traffic Controllers due to the high stress and fast-paced multi-tasking nature of the job

It's considered one of the most mentally challenging jobs there are.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/8335

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

probably one of the reasons why its such a shortage, low-retirement age, maximum age for becoming one, among other requirements.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 22 hours ago

We should have this same law for politicians.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How about you just increase the pay and benefits you’re offering? if you love the efficiencies of the free market so much why don’t you fucking act like it

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

The free market dictates that in a shortage, the cost of the goods or services must rise to meet the equilibrium of supply and demand. Anything else is surely incredibly inefficient.

[–] [email protected] 128 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  1. Claim a federal agency is inefficient
  2. Fire employees and defund agency
  3. Agency performs worse than before
  4. Point finger at the agency showing how it is incompetent
  5. Move to privatize agency
  6. $$$$$$$
[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That's been the Republican M.O. for like 40 years.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fucking beg, fascist bitch.

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