this post was submitted on 21 Feb 2025
399 points (99.3% liked)

politics

20345 readers
2969 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

Donald Trump falsely claimed he had approval ratings of 69% and 71%, despite no public poll supporting those figures.

Recent surveys from Pew, Quinnipiac, Gallup, and others place his approval below 50%, with some showing him underwater.

Trump has a history of dismissing unfavorable polls as “fake” and even sued a news organization over poll results.

Experts suggest his political success relies on maintaining the illusion of widespread support despite declining approval ratings.

all 49 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

In the MAGAsphere anything other than trumps delusions is fake news.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 hours ago

This just in: fascist dictator wannabe lies with reckless abandon.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago

Wasn't Obama's inauguration crowd bigger than both of his, combined?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Why is this surprising? Everything he says is "people say", "they say", "polls say", etc without ever specifying who these "people" are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Well, these people do have different voices, and he can hear them all the time - he just doesn't know that it's his thoughts, cause he's to fucking dumb to realise it.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

We've passed the point months, years ago ...

The idiot is not Turnip .... America is the collective idiot that puts up with all this shit and accepts it

I no longer think of him as dumb ... I think of the entire US government and its people as collectively stupid for making all this possible.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

https://archive.is/7NT83

September 6, 2003

Nearing the second anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, seven in 10 Americans continue to believe that Iraq's Saddam Hussein had a role in the attacks, even though the Bush administration and congressional investigators say they have no evidence of this.

Sixty-nine percent of Americans said they thought it at least likely that Hussein was involved in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, according to the latest Washington Post poll. That impression, which exists despite the fact that the hijackers were mostly Saudi nationals acting for al Qaeda, is broadly shared by Democrats, Republicans and independents.

US citizens are and have been fucking stupid. They don't even need propaganda to believe stupid shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

You think there wasn’t propaganda pushing that view?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Half the country has about a sixth grade reading comprehension level...so you definitely aren't wrong.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago

Dismantling public education has been deliberate, so has the expansion of right-wing propaganda to all forms of media. Both are done at the behest of capital owners to divide the working class

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The White House spent months alleging a connection. It proves how little Americans understood about Iraq or Al Qaeda that they thought they would collude

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

Exactly, Hussein was running a secular government while Al Qaeda were religious extremists pushing for religious rule.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, there's a solid chance his handlers are just giving him fake poll numbers and shit to keep him busy anyway. He's a fucking toddler, this dude isn't reading the news. He gets a piece of paper that says "EVERYONE LOVES YOU, 89% APPROVAL" along with another Photoshop of him on some magazine every morning to make him feel like a big boy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

He is pathological narcissist liar, and has always been so. He doesn't need handlers to give him fake poll numbers. He will happily create them on the spot.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

He is not just a toddler, he almost definitely has dementia and likely is also abusing some sort of stimulant.

https://jmp.sh/s/9jyaWJXAEgkpsBFeEKmE

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Have you ever seen the Reagan lights out video?

He's asked a question and they turn out the lights, turn off his mic and he spontaneously utters "my handlers told me not to answer that". He's Regan just with yes men that egg on the dementia rambles as genius 4d chess you need to be in the know to understand.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No, and I can't seem to find it. Got a source?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Well I mean, he probably says he has a 13" wang too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

Oh yeah? Well MY approval rating is a gazillion percent!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 21 hours ago

What a fucking man-child

[–] [email protected] 25 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I’d be surprised if he has that approval rating in his own family.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

There were a lot of insider stories after the apprentice TV show wrapped. Apparently, Ivanka and Don2 are not very nice to him or about him.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I'll say that, at this point, you can't even blame that fucking asshole. You can blame partisan media for not fact-checking this basic shit and having their dipshit viewers lap it up. It's broken beyond repair.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Are we looking at the same article? This piece is literally a fact check.

This idea of fact checks being the antidote to trumpian fascism is straight from 2015. No amount of fact checking or "facts and logic" will slow fascism, and the roaring success of Trump's campaign despite countless debate moderator fact checks, community notes, and politifacts should make that very clear.

You need to abandon this liberal idea that Americans turn fascist only because they have yet to be shown the "data" or "facts". Liberalism is the idea that sitting a fascist down and showing them facts, logics, charts, statistics, and expert testimony will somehow magically convert them into a leftist.

The leftists framework is that fascism is the result of worsening material conditions and withering away of social safety nets, and the only way to fight fascism is to change material conditions or kill fascists. This is in direct contrast with liberalism - which posits that the ever-evolving, self-correcting marketplace of ideas is the end-all extinguisher of fascism. Look where that got us....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

Are we looking at the same article? This piece is literally a fact check.

I think the guy you're responding to was making a statement about the lack of fact-checking in the media in general, not with this piece in particular.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

So facts and receipts are out.

Please assure me heckling and laughter isn't off the table. I need something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Oh, there is more than enough blame to go around.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 21 hours ago

tldr: He lies.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine how stupid and unimaginative you'd have to create your own approval rating and go with a number as low as 70%.

Aim higher Donny, aim higher.

[–] LMurch 4 points 19 hours ago

Surprised he didn't go with his famous 110%. Why not, anyone that believes him won't fact check or point out you can't have a 110% approval rate. 🤷

[–] [email protected] 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Guy has the most fragile ego on the planet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

It's a toss-up between him and President Musk.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I heard the actual approval rating was closer to 420%.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago

Pretty sure that's what Musk thinks his is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I heard he shot 38 under, including 11 holes-in-one, at a 7,700-yard championship course

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

¯\(ツ)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

Ministry of TruthSocial*

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If it wasn’t for all the dead democrats who hate him he’d have a 98-99% approval rating.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago

Remove all the illegals voting for disapproval and he'd be at 120% approval!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Sounds like something he would do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

To be fair, Elon has been 69-ing him

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

Oh that's not the approval rating of Americans, that's the approval rating between the people licking Trump's asshole right now.