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Donald Trump stated that Palestinians displaced by Israel’s military actions would not have a right to return to Gaza under his plan.

Instead, he proposed resettling them in Egypt and Jordan, despite both nations rejecting the idea.

Trump suggested creating permanent refugee communities funded by the U.S., calling Gaza a "real estate development for the future."

His proposal has drawn condemnation from Arab nations and legal experts, with the UN warning it could constitute ethnic cleansing and violate international law.

Israel’s far-right settlers welcomed the plan.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Member when people were saying Kamala would be worse than Trump for Palestinians, LOL! How's that vote/abstain working out now?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Remember when Democrats pleaded with Harris to differentiate herself from Biden and Trump on the issue and she refused?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 59 minutes ago

me downvote instead of argue 🤓

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Well now you have to take them in.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Of course he does not. Every American president has always voted against Palestinian self-determination at the UN.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

It's ironic that China seems to be the country supporting the Palestinians, I kinda feel we might be the baddies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

I don't think China (the government) actually cares. Just like the US supporting Ukraine, the US (the government) does not actually care about Ukrainians.

Russia - Ukraine conflict

Israel - Palestine conflict

Its all just a chess game to become (or remain) the superpower

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Not ironic it all.

The US condemns China for the treatment of the Uyghurs. US good, China bad.

China condemns the US for the treatment of the Palestinians. China good, US bad.

Both countries don't give a shit about either.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

Sadly every major power tends to be the baddies to some extent, it's how they get to be and stay major powers. We just get to grade on a curve. Nazi Germany really set the curve and the US got to be the pretty unambiguous good guys, at least up to the firebombing campaign in Japan, the nuclear bombs, and being complicit after the fact in Japanese atrocities by shielding them from consequences.

While we have an "ambient" level of baddie-ness most of the time, we at least have balanced it out by sometimes defending against unjust violence and providing humanitarian aid.

Now Trump seeks to turn that baddie scale up to the max while simultaneously cutting out all aid efforts.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 13 hours ago

Aaaaand, why is the president of the US making plans for the people in a county he has no authority over again?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The real lesson of trump: you can get away with anything after you've conditioned your victims enough.

I read recently that all conservatism is is "I'm a good person and anyone who says otherwise deserved whatever I did to them."

Pretty sure this is how it all started in the 1930s.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 17 hours ago

Friendly reminder: The crescendo of the first six months of project 2025 is using civil unrest to deploy the US Military as a domestic police force. The accompanying suspension of habeus corpus is absolutely needed for them to turn up the heat even more.

They're laying the groundwork for defanging the judicial branch as we speak - it's their last obstacle.

From https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles/article-i/clauses/763 (emphasis mine):

"The Suspension Clause protects liberty by protecting the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus. It provides that the federal government may not suspend this privilege except in extraordinary circumstances: when a rebellion or invasion occurs and the public safety requires it. "

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Trump suggested creating permanent refugee communities funded by the U.S., calling Gaza a "real estate development for the future."

I will make the best Economy evah!

Lol no, om going to use the US funds to pay for millions of refugees that I artificially created so that I can have my very own Riviera for free

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

The fiscally conservative party at its finest, everyone

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

Cool plan dude except for the humanity and stuff

[–] [email protected] 64 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Not even gonna try to pretend it isn't ethnic cleansing...

[–] [email protected] 30 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

People can weasel themselves around terms like "fascist" quite easily, because there are multiple definitions, many are very diffuse and there's a lot of disagreement around it - but ethnic cleansing to my understanding is quite simple and this is it. Can any serious political commentator pretend it's not? For example the forced removal of Poles from west Poland (annexed by USSR) after WW2 for example was not a slaughter, but is considered an act of ethnic cleansing.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

People immigrating to the US? Criminal invaders. The biggest threat to America. Meanwhile, let's turn an entry country into refugees and forcibly relocate them into other countries without the consent of anyone involved. Makes perfect sense. /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 59 minutes ago

Don't worry, trump is gonna move them to the US, and not give them any documents, then be like "ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT" and send them to Guantanamo doing slave labor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Trump seems to practicing a classic example of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brinkmanship

Not sure if purposefully or just accidentally.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Biden’s Gaza policy was tragic, but still, fuck anyone that voted to throw gas onto that fire.

Guy behind the Muslim ban, with the Christian nationalist base, was always going to make things worse.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

The sheer audacity of treating sovereign territories like Monopoly properties reveals the bankruptcy of modern geopolitics. Trump's alleged "Gaza swap" proposal – offering Egypt debt relief for absorbing a war-torn enclave – reeks of casino diplomacy where human lives become bargaining chips. This isn't statecraft, it's a foreclosure auction on human dignity.

Egypt's immediate rejection proves even authoritarian regimes recognize some lines shouldn't be crossed. But the real tragedy lies in normalizing this billionaire's mentality that every crisis is a leveraged buyout opportunity. From the Abraham Accords to this Gaza garage sale, it's all about transactional trophy deals while ignoring root causes.

The Mediterranean doesn't need another real estate mogul playing Risk with refugee camps. This isn't solving conflict – it's outsourcing oppression through financial blackmail. The message is clear: human rights have become adjustable-rate mortgages in the hands of dealmakers.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dudes gonna single handedly start WW3

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 day ago (2 children)

his handler in moscow deserves some credit

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago

Wonder where all the people that fall for the Russian propaganda on Kamala are?

Probably found another single issue to base their entire political identity around. I know a lot switched over to the Gulf of America outrage.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago

I called it. Powers that be want that beachfront property.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

What's the end goal here, cause another 9/11 so he can declare martial law?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

Did they ever really had rights? USA have been arming Israel for the past 50+ years.

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