Is it even a competition?
Afaik, lemmy doesn't compete. It just exists, and makes no effort as an entity to expand.
I'm not even sure if there are individual instances that do anything to seek out users, much less try to take them from other places.
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I kinda wish they did so Reddit diasppears
There is no "they" really - it's up to us as users to promote it.
How do we as users make sure Lemmy and the rest of the Fediverse grows?
Just promote it to users of traditional centralised corporate sites. Promote established but smaller instances and explain why it's better 😊
How do you actually have people listen to you, there's not really many people on reddit that I've found that you can tell them reddits crap and you should move to this instead.
I think you just need to promote it at the right time to the right audience, and suggest the right instances. People who are saying they're sick of Reddit, especially when Reddit does something to shoot themselves in the foot. I think just trying to force it onto people will have the opposite effect.
@[email protected] puts a lot of effort into promoting Lemmy on Reddit, they'll have some decent input on how to promote it!
There's also [email protected] which is a community around this kind of thing if you're interested.
With "they", I meant the owners/mantainers, specifically. Without some promotion from their part, there aren't so much users to promote it further.
No, if there's too hard of a push to get users then lemmy earns itself a bigger gun behind the crosshairs that are already aimed it (by platforms like Reddit).
If we have any hope of growing Lemmy into what it can eventually be, we need the growth to be gradual. As painstaking and aggravating as that might be.
I just bought a domain name yesterday with plans to create an instance for my local county. My killer idea is to have a comminity in the instsnce called "the good old days" where older folks can post their stories. I noticed that is a popular thing on facebook. The instance will not be federated as I don't want anything but content which is relavent to the county. It should be somewhat self regulating given the topic limitations. I probably won't even mention federation unless someone else wants to make an instance specific to a certain town or something. Just a way to filter out all the noise on facebook where people can see all tge different news outlets and events from accross the county without being filtered by fb et al.
As soon as the fediverse becomes an actual threat, the ban hammer is going to come down on anonymous social media
I'm honestly surprised it hasn't happened yet
How
It would probably be something like: "any social media site made available to US users must verify user identities and legal name and age and comply with US agencies' requests for user information. Violators will be subject to penalty, including but not limited to economic sanction and imprisonment"
Yes, there would be ways around it and yes, there would be nations who would not enforce it, but there being legal barriers to operating an instance would basically kill its adoption for normal users. I'm really tired of people saying 'you can just get a vpn' as if most people would go to any length at all to share memes with friends. The fediverse is already too complicated for most people to adopt before having to circumvent region blocks.
Australia is already trying something like this, under the guise of protecting kids. Under 16 year olds are banned from social media starting in December, which is effectively the same as forcing identity verification. Don't know if Lemmy will be affected or not. But I'll ditch this account over giving my ID to "random dude running an instance".
UK occasionally talks about this kind of thing too. Recently had something come in that caused some web forums to shut down as it was unenforceable for a small forum but the big companies will either comply, pretend to comply or pay/ignore the fines.
I feel like that would probably Streisand effect
Which would increase their effort to chase it down and make regular people avoid it.
Not that it would deter you, but the network would essentially stop growing and no longer be a real competitor
Couldn't have social media without Americans.
Actually wait yes can we apply this to Lemmy?
Ordinarily I would be sensitive to accusations of america-centrism, but the US has a tendency of bullying their allies into following their regulatory measures so I don't think this is just a US problem.
I guess we will see, maybe.
wasn't there a thing about almost all instances being hosted on Hetzner?
It’s still pretty niche as of now
It’s crazy to me how there’s percentage of gamers who think this guy is THEIR billionaire, and this is THEIR game corporation, and it somehow makes it different or more ethical than all the other billionaires and corporations.
In a world where enshitification is the norm, the bar is so low that keeping a product with good quality is enough to be deified by some. But surely those gamers that worship Gabe just do it for the memes right? (Don't answer)
Valve being privately owned rather than having external shareholders probably helps them go for something sustainable rather than pushing for growth at all costs.
It's simply because the product is far superior to all other solutions on the market.
Not due to tricks, or marketing, or any weird strategies, but by simply solving the distribution problem for both the developers and consumers.
Yes all billionaires need to give up their wealth or literally be eaten, and all capitalism is inherently evil, but if we were to rank evil from least to most as especially liberals do in all other circumstances, then gaben and steam are on the least evil side of the spectrum.
Parasocial relationships get fucky
The China method
It is currently called the United States of America
Spy sappin mah sentry!
I’m not sure but it’s been working wonders for desktop Linux for the technically inclined.
Weeeeell, as someone who moved from windows to Mint a few weeks back, Steam and proton have had a big hand in that, so I wouldn't say it's a good example of "doing nothing".
Edit: granted, Microsoft constantly shooting their own feet doesn't help, but Steam broke the cage by providing what was missing.
Not to downplay what Valve and all of the countless Linux contributers are doing and have accomplished, but I wouldn't be on Linux if Windows hasn't gone to shit.
I was basically a 30 year long Windows fanboy. It got so bad that it drove me away. And now I'm a Linux fanboy.
And for Valve.
“Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake."
—Napoleon Bonaparte
The side fucking up is called "the art of the deal"
Good name for a book.
They could avoid taxes on the proceeds with the deal of the art.
Stability, reliability, don't fix it if it ain't broke.
Some companies have a need to reinvent them every 6 months to justify some middle Manager's existence so they can pad their resume for the next overpaid job position.
This Is what it looks like when you don't have that problem
Accurate. There's significant overlap between Fediverse managers, developers, and users. Everyone's goals for the platform are always closely aligned.
This actually just describes the main problem in almost every industry these days. Companies are so large and have so many people running them that at each rung of the ladder, priorities are completely different since it's impossible for someone in middle management to have any clue what's going on in manufacturing, or vice versa.
Then all of them get overshadowed equally by the monetary priorities of the CEO.
And if they gain a monopoly, they're able to separate their priorities from those of their users. That's when the enshitification begins.
Doing it the Valve way.
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