I mean, both would be great. No need for or reduced insurance, safer roads, and public transportation for the trains side. Would hopefully help transition and adoption over time.
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After living in Japan for a while it's so hard to go back to countries with no trains. It's so incredibly convenient that I still have dreams of just hopping on a train with google maps in hand to just explore stuff — the best way to experience Japan!
Self driving trains tho. Not all trains do that
Why? The one driver per hundreds of passengers is drop in the bucket and it is better to have a human who can deal with various issues an AI can't.
If trains are completely separated from pedestrians or any other form of transportation, then 100% automation was possible a century ago. As soon as they're not, the problem becomes much, much harder, and is not fully solved yet.
Trains take so long to stop that having a human in charge isn't going to do any good in terms of avoiding pedestrians or any other form of transportation.
However, since you only need one person driving a train that can carry hundreds of passengers it doesn't really make sense to replace them with AI. The small savings of having one less salary to pay is offset by the fact that you no longer have someone to blame when things go wrong.
I should clarify. When I said "all other forms of transportation", that includes other trains. You can easily do it on a straight shot running back and forth. Which is what a lot of large airport trams do, and the monorail in Seattle (which is more like a bus on a concrete rail), but not much else.
As soon as you enter the complication of signaling, automation becomes a lot harder.
But yes, it's not worthwhile to automate away that one extra job.
Doesn't matter what route you go down; if you try to actually fix traffic, you will always end up inventing busses and trains.
Are trains and busses the crabs of automotives?
I dunno. I want to invent blimps
You know the Blimps are the buses of the Air, they say.
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People really hate the idea of trains
Our rail system has been so terrible for so long that people are unable to even consider the possibility that it doesn't have to be shit
Our rail system
Living in France and Belgium, I'd argue it's not that bad. Is this the same "Our"?
I think theyre talking about the US.
Yeah people in the US tend to assume everything is about the US. Sometimes it's good to remind them that other places exist and have internet.
At the current rate of acquisition the current US president is attempting there may no longer be other countries, just more states
Then everyone can think that way
Huh? Our rail system seems to be just fine. I'm not so hot about the new faster train to Turku though
I'd wager racism and classism don't help. "Imagine riding a train with a poor person./s"
imagine being so self-absorbed you look down on poor people
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How about self driving buses?
Trains are really cool, but not ideal for low traffic conditions + areas requiring a lot of route flexibility. We definitely should build a lot more trains/trams than what were building right now, but self driving buses will still have a very large use case.
No one wants a bus! That's not cool.
However, I've invented a revolutionary "shared mega limo". It's like an Uber, but with 50 seats, and optionally you can ride standing if you're sporty. It's the size of a bus, but definitely not a bus.
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The trick is you do both buses and trains. You use the buses to connect communities that don't have large transit requirements between them and then for commuting you use buses to direct people to train stations where they can get the trains to work/ where they need to go en masse. Transportation is a multilevel solution that requires multiple modes to get people where they need to go but you can't just rely on buses as quite frankly they lack the ability move all that many people even across quite short distances.
Also to address the self driving part: autonomous road vehicles that can operate safely and at scale are well in the fucking magic territory of technology. If you want a proven highly autonomous travel technique that works trains have been doing it for decades.
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