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I didn't mean for this post to cause a bunch of arguing in the comments =(

I thought this was just some gallows humor (e.g. "Everything's lovely except that I have to fear for my safety all the time") type of shitpost that sounded similar to comments I've heard from women irl a lot.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 34 minutes ago

As a girl, I love taking walks in the evening/night or early in the morning, they really are a vibe! However if there's a man who appears to be following behind me, I always grab my keys in my pocket to be ready to fight in case he tries anything. I will also text friends/family when I'm going out and text them when I arrive back home.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 minutes ago

Gotta admit, I do love me some murderin'

[–] [email protected] 2 points 27 minutes ago

ITT:

lemmy fans learn Lemmy isn't special

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm disappointed in Lemmy and lemmings, I thought we left this shit in Reddit. Can someone lock this dumpsterfire of a comment section already?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Agreed. Like I get "hurr durr statistics". But you're not very likely to be in a car crash on any given day, but you still put your seat belt on. That people can't take the backseat for just a second and have some empathy for the struggles of other people without butting in with whataboutism. You're even allowed to share in their struggle. I don't fear I'll be SAd, but of course I fear physical violence, so use your commonality to support each other rather than trying to one up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

That sucks man. I love night walks too, especially through secluded areas and when it's super dark, overcast and windy. There is something very enjoyable and exhilarating about being outside, invisible and unnoticed in a busy world. I feel bad that you don't get to enjoy that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Men really can't do anything fun anymore 😔

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 minute ago

women fear being murdered by men they've rejected and strangers

-- oof ouch owie my male feelings!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I'm tired of feeling alienated for being male. I'm tired of the default consideration for what a man is being a rapist and a murderer; someone dangerous not to be implicitly trusted; someone you should own a gun to protect yourself from. I'm tired of being labelled a cis man because saying just man would imply that trans men could ever be monsters like us. I go out wearing a skirt and heels and I am trusted, women approach me, give me compliments, ask me for directions. I go out without shaving and am embraced by callousness. If I could ask one thing, if you wouldn't be comfortable using the word "brother," "father," "son," "boyfriend" or "husband," don't use the word "man" or "men." Use another word. A murderer doesn't have to be tied to their gender.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 minutes ago

Imagine if you had to deal with actually being targeted as a minority or woman. You'd be so mad, dude.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry it bothers you like that.

I personally don't feel alienated or attacked at all by the kinds of comments you are describing. When I see a comment like "men murder women", I think of it in the same kind of way comments like "humans are horrible" or "Australians are racist" or "young people have no attention span"... That is to say it describes a trend or someone's perception of a tendency but does not refer to any specific individual.

People aren't saying these things to attack you. They are saying them to communicate their own feelings of being unsafe. And to be frank, feeling that you shouldn't go for a walk at night because it is too dangerous is a pretty serious thing which has obvious negative effects - and the concern is based in reality. It isn't just a perception problem. So we should take these comments seriously - not just complain about the people saying them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

How do you feel when someone says women are whores, Germans are Nazis or Africans are slaves? I feel offended and outraged. I don't care if there are women who work as prostitutes, that most Nazis were Germans and that the trans-atlantic slave trade systematically enslaved a culture group. It's irrelevant. You're discriminating and dehumanising these people. But in these times it's normal to hear men are trash, they're rapists, they murder. So people are numb to it. They don't care about it. They will justify it by insisting men are of a position of privilege. That all men intentionally built a patriarchal society to indulge themselves. The men I know are just people. They want change. They are being alienated and that alienation drives them towards those that actually are the thing people claim men are.

I think you said it well "we should take these comments seriously - not just complain about the people saying them." I just wish people would say it about men.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You are not alone in feeling that. Everyone being angry about this in here probably feels the same. And it's incredibly ingenuine to on one hand say this post communicates feelings about fear of going outside and/or men, while simultaneously dismissing feelings of anger at being called a murderer.

My own comment being dismissive of this post (because it's a shitpost, that's the literal community here) was deleted.

Another one where I say "women lie" is being downvoted and it was (softly) implied I'm a murderer for saying this (The comment says "You are the man we are afraid of", context is "men like to murder" as of the OP). The reply and votes to the "women lie" one means people do in fact notice that an overgeneralization hurts. They just don't care if it hurts men. Presumably because "men are murderers" and are thus not allowed a voice besides belittling themselves.

It's just sad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 minutes ago

I made a reply to blind3rdeye where I mirrored some of your sentiments. I have a hard time finding mutual empathy with people. When anyone talks about the unique pain of belonging to certain groups I try my hardest to trust them. I do this because of how much dismissiveness there is of men's issues.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

Anyone who wouldn't pick the bear does not deserve bears.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

damnn these comments are why i don't recommend this platform to anyone i know.

i think i'm going to change instances after this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Blahaj.zone is good!

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