MiniDiscs for recording, MD data for recording, and MiniDV cassettes will also be abandoned.

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[–] 102 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

This is truly disappointing. The end of a physical media era and nothing on the horizon to replace it.

But this move to streaming libraries, where there is no ownership and the movies and shows you watch could simply disappear without warning, reminds us how fleeting life can be.

No, it reminds me our corporate overlords will continue to take away things that don’t make them a continuous stream of free money.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Jellyfin/Plex + Sonarr/Radarr + Usenet + HDDs/SSDs

    HDDs/SSDs are a form of physical recordable media with FAR more capacity and speed than any optical medium

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    If there are no more discs to rip how will people get the movies and shows in the first place?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    For all their efforts in DRM, Netflix et al have thus far failed to prevent people from ripping their highest quality streams and torrenting them

    My setup has had 0 issues grabbing the latest "streaming only" content very quickly after release

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago*

    Having watched some of my favorites on Netflix, even with their 4K offering, the compression can kill a scene. Netflix has no incentive to provide the 0.1% of viewers who care about a better quality stream, so they don’t.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    No, there was one next more "optical image" after Blue-rays. Archive Disc mainly used for backups in companies dealing with lots of images. Biggest one could take 2TB per disc, as much as tape drives. However, they didn't get adoption and it has been discontinued. Sadly

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Biggest one could take 2TB per disc

    I mean it's cool for a disc, but HDDs still beat that, Seagate just released a 36TB HDD to mass market, optical always lags behind on storage density and speed

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    From wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archival_Disc

    Sony used Archival Disc in their Optical Disc Archive professional archival product range, and aimed to create at least a 6-TB storage medium. As of 2020, they offered 5.5 TB Optical Disc Archive Cartridges.[14][15][16]

    That limit I mentioned has nothing with the 'technological limit'. Simply enough they lost with the adoption - if the clients wanted, they would get bigger archival discs.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm aware, I've done heavy research for my own mass cold archival plans.

    It's a physics problem is why it lags behind HDDs so much, and to reach that 6TB on optical it's a cartridge with literal multiple discs inside. Adoption or no, it was never going to reach storage density parity with HDDs. Hell, even SSDs are having a difficult time taking on HDDs storage density

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    SD cards & microSD cards are still an option

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Sure, for storage. I’m more concerned about first party sources for high quality rips. The only thing left will be streaming rips, which just don’t compare on a proper display, especially once HDR gets involved.

    It’s like if they just stopped selling CDs and all you could find were YouTube rips anymore.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    This is about recordable BD-R's, this doesn't affect Blu-ray movies.

    At least, I hope not...

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Article says it started as removing BD-R and they'd keep operating for corporate customers (studios) but that appears to have collapsed quickly. I'm interpreting it as the end of Blu-ray production entirely.

    Commercial sales have quickly become insufficient to sustain Sony’s optical media business.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Didn't Sony recently take over Blu-ray production for Disney? And don't they also have Blu-ray titles scheduled for release in the next few months? This doesn't make sense to me.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Yes and yes, but looking at BR releases, they seem to drop off hard around the month of May.

    This lines up pretty close to 3 months after close, I think that could be a reasonable lead time if production ends next month. They are probably printing April releases right now.

    But I'm speculating and toms hardware seems to be waiting for clarification from Sony themselves, perhaps there is still some hope.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Even regular Blu-Rays are better quality than streaming.

    4K-blurays are the definitive way to see movies at home.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Netflix 4K has a bitrate topping out around 16 Mbps (and often lower), Blu-ray 4K is something like 140 Mbps. Streaming services compress the hell out of video to save bandwidth. It's like comparing MP3 and FLAC.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I find the easiest way to spot the quality difference is a dark scene. On streaming look at the dark areas. You'll likely see bands and patches of different levels of black if you pay attention.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If I have to pay extra attention to a specific part of the screen during a specific part of a show just to notice the difference, is it really that big of a difference?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    To you maybe not. It bothers some people and especially in cases when the stream isn't optimal and the scene is dark it can be pretty bad.

    Another difference is multichannel audio. It's much less compressed on 4k Bluray, so if you have a surround setup most people report easily being able to tell a difference.

    Also older movies with film grain is something streaming struggles with. (Check out this video about how confetti wrecks YouTube quality for an idea why) 4KBD has a much higher bitrate and will handle this noticably better. A proper scan of old film movies can still yield nearly 8k resolution footage! This also applies to any scene even in modern movies with a ton of stuff moving at once especially if the camera is moving around. The bigger and/or closer your screen is the more noticable this is.

    If you care enough to have a decent home media setup, surround sound with a large 4K HDR screen it's worth it.

    But yeah for most people streaming is perfectly fine on the quality front.

    But also you have the other benefit - you own the damn thing. It can't be taken away. They sometimes have extra content with the discs. It doesn't cost you a monthly fee.

    I stream many things. But if I really like something I'll grab the Bluray.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    welp 🏴‍☠️

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I survived the DVD-Blueray era, having successfully never bought a DVD or Blu-ray player, movie disc's, etc.. Long live piracy.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I did a really quick search and a mechanical hard drive costs around 1$ for 50gb of storage while a blank Blu-ray was closer to 1$ for 25gb of storage. That would suggest a drive is more effective at storing data from a cost perspective, so there just needs to be a service that sells movies in a digital format.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "Sell" and "digital format" are not something that media companies like. More like long term rent on very specific locked down hardware and software.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    "Best we can do is an overpackaged, encrypted, read-only microSD for $49.99. It requires a dedicated proprietary media player and if you're lucky, it won't fail in a year."

    "Why won't anyone buy our movies :("

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    The thing is they want people to stream media for the most part. Buying movies is the niche that needs filled for the sake of it.

    What I want is a healthier media economy. Right now I don't pirate anything and I would love to legally get content in a way that is sustainable.

    However, at the rate we are going piracy is going to be the only way.

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