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Such a popcorn moment, honestly. I wonder where they'll go to once Red Note blocks US Americans. They might be able to go back to tick tock if the US backpedals, but if not... is pixelfed or whatever fediverse alternative exists really ready to absorb 700M accounts?
Apparently the [?head ?CEO ?Mayor McCheese] of TikTok is attending the inauguration. Which means that they've already bribed Trump and the ban will be reversed pretty much immediately.
Isn’t it more like Loops.video than Pixelfed?
Honestly I expect VPN usage to go up
After interacting with them, it's pretty clear we're the trailer park. They seem to know more about our history than most Americans do.
But we don't exactly prioritize education here. Fuck taxes amirite?
Well, there are definitely parts of Chinese history Americans know more about.
Also, what "we"? The Americans using short form media aren't exactly the brightest examples in the first place.
I'm not sure. While it's not for me, I know some rather bright individuals that enjoy the format.
I mostly hate that it's such an advertising industry.
Idk I'm kinda clueless on the warring dynasties period
What makes you say that? From my recent experiences with short form media I’d say there are plenty of bright people involved. There’s tons of actual good STEM/Maker/DIY/Educational/History content and the medium lends itself well to quick community building
There are Americans in this very thread who think "the CCP" is real.
well yeah, china has like 1000x more history than america does, i don't think anyone can know all of documented chinese history
The irony being that TikTok is specifically designed to dumb down Americans. 🤣
Those will stay rumors. Thinking the CCP will wall off Americans shows a complete lack of understanding China. Since as the article noted, if you don't follow the rules you'll be banned, there's no way the government will try to wall off anyone. Hell, China didn't even want to ban Google. They asked Google to put in the rules that rednote has. Google refused, the firewall blocks Google until they abide by the rules. If Google ever just follows the rules like Microsoft, they're more than welcome to come back. If there's any segregation it will be because the server's are overwhelmed.
*Edit. Btw that's how bing and linkedin became huge in China until the Chinese found better Chinese alternatives. They never got banned, they got replaced.
Explain the two different Tiktoks then. Both were playing by the CCPs rules.
That's the funny part. As they're discovering with RedNote, Tik Tok wasn't censored by China, that's why they had 2, one for China and one for the world which would not follow the same censors. It actually was it's own entity and did it's own thing. That was a company decision because they thought it would make more money, and they were right.
Unless you mention Tiananmen Square.
I don't like America, but I can still mentioned Kent State shootings.
Where did Naomi Wu go after revealing that Chinese keyboard apps were keylogging? She was very careful to only accuse the company and not the party, but still got censored. Not everyone online has goldfish memory.
I'm not sure what your trying to say. Rednote was always censored. Are you talking about Tik Tok?
Here's a whole list of videos on tik tok about tiananmen with multiple videos showing tankman.
https://www.tiktok.com/tag/tiananmensquare
And here's niaomi's tik tok
https://www.tiktok.com/@realsexycyborg
Oh and you probably should look soon. Because a government IS about to censor those posts on Tik Tok. The US government.
That would be a shame. I'm really enjoying the app, sharing pictures of food and recipes with people half a globe away is really cool. And there's a lot of interest in fishing in China, it's cool to see their techniques, what they do the same, what they do differently.
And everyone is just so nice! They've built a really positive community and culture on RedNote and it's unique to be able to see that kind of thing work, at least compared to American social media.
I get why they don't want US influence and what-not and I could see how a bunch of Americans treating it like Tiktok would be problematic for maintaining the vibe they've cultivated, but it's a really refreshing change of pace from other social media.
The problem with China is really the government. Democracy is a concept that the CCP really doesn't like.
Am I the only one seeing the irony here? Is paying lip service to democracy enough? Legal gerrymandering, electoral college, voter suppression...
To be fair, though: The US government isn't really all that keen on democracy, either.
They have that newfangled word for it now. What was it? Olymarkie? Oldmalarkie? Oh, what was it…
Me when my government bans a historically popular app: those Chinese ain't democratic like us!
I 100% agree. The fact that congress can mandate censorship is incredibly problematic. Hopefully it gets shot down by the supreme court.
If you're willing to give the us government even a shred of forgiveness despite constantly proving they're completely undemocratic, you should look into how Chinese governance actually works and see why the CPC has such high approval ratings from the population.
That sounds nice!
They actually prioritize socializing over just putting out random shit for views & engagement?
I'd love to talk to folks with different cultures and share stuff we find neat!
That seems to be the vibe. I'm mostly looking at the food content and one thing I really like is when someone posts a video or photo of a dish they've made, people reply with pictures of their own versions of the same thing and heap compliments on each other.
There's absolutely fashion/beauty influencer content, fwiw, but you don't have to engage with that if you don't want to. The app seems pretty strict about lewdness, tho, so it's fairly chaste stuff.
You, like, absolutely need to use a translator. There's no in app translation and it's primarily Chinese people posting and replying in Chinese. But Google Translate works almost perfectly. I have had a number of back and forth conversations and while I'm sure "my" Chinese looks off, I've never had a conversation break down because a reply doesn't make sense.
What is even happening
I so badly want translators to get to the point where I can seamlessly interact with people who I don't share a language with. A sm with an in-app text translator would be so cool. Tired of only talking to Brits, Americans, Canadians and Aussies. I want no one to be spared from my bad takes and shit posts!
That's actually a really good idea. And LLMs are excellent at machine translation, it's one of their underutilized killer apps. They're a little better at going to English than from English or between two non-English languages, just because so much of the corpus is English, but they're easily enough that it could be automated as a working solution.
You know the other night I got high and thought. "I wander what other countries learn in grade school. How their propaganda is different from ours" and now all this is going on.
It's wild how we can connect with people from across the world but our world leaders try their hardest to make sure we don't.
Good. Why the fuck are you all so addicted to Chinese brain rot?
This article is horseshit. They wrote it from an unsubstantiated rumor on Reddit.
Meanwhile, China's People's Dispatch has praised the exchange, and Rednote has added a translation feature.
