He generally shows most of the signs of the misinformation accounts:

  • Wants to repeatedly tell basically the same narrative and nothing else
  • Narrative is fundamentally false
  • Not interested in any kind of conversation or in learning that what he’s posting is backwards from the values he claims to profess

I also suspect that it’s not a coincidence that this is happening just as the Elon Musks of the world are ramping up attacks on Wikipedia, specially because it is a force for truth in the world that’s less corruptible than a lot of the others, and tends to fight back legally if someone tries to interfere with the free speech or safety of its editors.

Anyway, YSK. I reported him as misinformation, but who knows if that will lead to any result.

Edit: Number of people real salty that I’m talking about this: Lots

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[–] 235 points 2 years ago (17 children)

You just described the average Tankie around here lmao

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  • [–] [S] 118 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Yeah, there’s kind of a Poe’s Law situation.

    A lot of the sincere tankies, though, at least want to talk about what they’re into, and have elaborate reasons why it’s all true. The low-effort “I can’t even be bothered to try to mount a defense, I just wanted to say Wikipedia is doxing its users and kowtowing to fascist governments, and now that I’ve said it my task is done” behavior is a little more indicative of a disingenuous propaganda account in my experience.

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  • [–] 81 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    elaborate reasons why it’s all true

    Usually it's "just read these 10 hundred-year-old books" that they absolutely have not read.

    And if you ask them to make a point from those books, they can't. Apparently they're only comprehensible as a whole.

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    [–] 105 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Could you be anymore vague

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  • [–] [S] 86 points 2 years ago

    Yeah, I was trying to talk about the situation without specifically linking to the comments or starting any kind of brigade situation. I figured being vague was better than being inflammatory, and anyone who cared enough would know what I was taking about, which seems to be accurate.

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    [–] 93 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Interesting all this WP news I'm hearing today. Last week I downloaded the entirety of Wikipedia. Anyone can do it, the base archive (no pictures) is only about 25G, although the torrent is slow AF, took me... almost 2 weeks to download it.

    I did this because I feel like this might be the last chance to get a version of it that has any vestige of the old order in it, the old order being "trying to stick to ideals and express truth rather than rewriting history to the fascists' specifications."

    I'd love to be wrong, but if I'm not, I feel like it will potentially be a good reference in the future if needed.

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  • [–] [S] 138 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    This is in the news because Wikipedia is refusing to rewrite history to the fascists' specifications.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdrdydkypv7o

    It's possible that India will succeed at eroding by a little bit Wikipedia's resistance to having things rewritten because of various powerful people demanding it. But, if you're looking for an organization that's resistant against those demands, I don't think you will be able to find one that is anywhere near the equal of Wikipedia in terms of the scale at which it operates combined with the resistance it puts up when people do this.

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  • [–] 87 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    There are major issues with wikipedia, I say this as someone with thousands of edits. But I know exactly who you are talking about and they spread pure BS.

    The last time I saw them their account was called “ihatewikipedia” or “fuckwikipedia” or something like that lol and they were just spreading conspiracies. Or useless drama. Like they were going on about how wikipedia “invades your privacy”, it IP blocks people and tracks IP’s linked to editing.

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    [–] 78 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    It's likely this is a bot if it's wide spread. And Lemmy is INCREDIBLY ill suited to handle even the dumbest of bots from 10+ years ago. Nevermind social media bots today.

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    [–] 66 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Wikipedia is an alien plot to get Earthlings to read more. DON'T FALL FOR IT!!!!! . . . ./s

    Please donate to Wikipedia if you can.

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    [–] 66 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    Misinformation… you mean lies?

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    [–] 58 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

    The misinfo crowd has been twiddling their collective thumbs since the election and trump winning. Can’t make up bs about egg and gas prices anymore. They’re half-ass trying to incite intergenerational conflict between X, Z, millenials, etc. Guess they found a new target. Exact same MO. Repeat the claim ad nauseam, refuse to acknowledge any contrary argument, their argument is objectively false.

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    [–] 57 points 2 years ago (18 children)

    Who hates Wikipedia:

    • Tech bros
    • Russia
    • Israel
    • Other generic fascists
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    [–] 48 points 2 years ago

    Musk is getting desperate.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    On lemmy, this is far more likely to be some weird tankie shit about western propaganda. Though it is definitely noteworthy that the far right and far left seem to push a lot of the same misinformation on here.

    Also, in general lemmy trolls are super easy to spot because they don't do anything else. All they do is whine about democrats or post Russian propaganda and never engage on any other topics.

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    [–] 43 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    People posting misinformation? On Lemmy? No. It can't be.

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    [–] 39 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What is this false narrative? Genuine question, I'm out of the loop and might not recognize the misinformation if/when I see it.

    Sorry if it's a stupid question, couldn't work it out from a quick scan of the comments.

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  • [–] [S] 111 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    Yeah, the comments have gone completely off the rails.

    The false narrative is that Wikipedia is doxxing the identities of its users to the Indian government, because they kowtow to any fascist government that asks them to. The reality is that the Indian government is mad about content on Wikipedia, has taken Wikipedia to court, and they've been fighting in court to avoid changing the content or revealing the user identities, and have proposed a compromise where they reveal some parts of the user identity to only the judge in the case, so that some procedural things can be satisfied without compromising the privacy of their users and also without getting WP shut down in India because they're thumbing their noses at the court.

    What's actually happening sounds reasonable to me. The way the person is presenting it sounds like Wikipedia is doing terrible things on purpose and we shouldn't support them, and to me it looks like they're totally uninterested in addressing the discrepancy.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    DOWNLOAD A COPY OF WIKIPEDIA NOW. RIGHT NOW. DO NOT WAIT.

    WIKIPEDIA WILL BE RUINED IN (just guessing) THREE MONTHS (I hope I’m wrong)

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    [–] 34 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm pretty sure it's Elon.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (40 children)

    There's an option to donate on their website here: https://donate.wikipedia.org/ I'm starting monthly at $5 and possibly bumping up to $10 later on.

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I heard the guy who wrote Lemmy ate a GMO tomato, and enjoyed it.

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