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Summary

Tesla’s European market share is declining sharply, with EU registrations dropping 40.9% in November 2024 compared to last year, and year-to-date registrations down 15.2%.

Including the UK and EFTA, Tesla’s registrations fell 13.7% this year.

The drop stems from reduced government EV incentives and growing dissatisfaction with CEO Elon Musk.

Despite Tesla’s decline, overall EV registrations in Europe have remained stable as competing automakers gain ground. Tesla remains the largest EV producer in Europe but faces growing pressure from rivals capitalizing on its waning dominance.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

the biggest player in the electric vehicle game is having a rough year.

You couldn't tell by looking at the stock price.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

because tesla is basically just a pump and dump now considering the board are just musk stooges who greenlight anything he asks and investors are just musk cultists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 24 minutes ago

Were stooges stooges before the Three Stooges? Or was it the Stooges that defined stooges as stooges?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 hours ago

As much as I'd like to, I don't try starlink for the exact same reason. (Although Starlink has other reasons why I'm not going to give them any money)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

overall EV registrations in Europe have remained stable as competing automakers gain ground.

Which competing car manufacturers are they so I can invest?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

🤷 for some reason hybrids did really well in Europe this year. Probably because some countries have really shit charging infrastructure but people still want to emit less carbon.

The hybrids are bad though unless you live in a house and charge them at home. They don't have the hundreds of kW charging potential and if you charge them at work you often have to go move them during the day because you aren't allowed to leave them in the spot with the charger all day. Contrast this with an all electric vehicle that you can charge 200 km in five minutes at a gas tank.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 hours ago

Reminder that the Tesla strike in Sweden is still ongoing.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

No way I'm giving my money to that fascist, I don't care how good or bad his cars are

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Damn shame too, cause the second gen Roadster is the car I've been dreaming of: hard top convertible, sporty, electric, faster than rabbits fucking. But I will never, ever own a Nazimobile.

I hope it at least inspires other automakers to bring back sporty convertibles. Until then I'll hang onto my 350Z Roadster forever. If that never happens, I guess I'll have to eventually convert the car to electric. I'm so sick and tired of every battery car being a god damn crossover. They're too big and corner like shit because of their size.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Nazimobile

so no Volkswagen, BMW, heck perhaps no big car company?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Ford in the early days. Henry Ford practically was a Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 minutes ago

Companies arent people. Don’t treat them as such. What’s important is who is running the company now and what the company stands for.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

"His" cars are dogshit for the price. The only thing they have going for them is they are fast. Which makes them dangerous since people drive em fast and then cannot stop, since huge battery equals weight. The build quality is dog, the rear door will happily close on your fingers, and sometimes it'll just brick itself because F you.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 hour ago

I don't like Teslas either due ro Musk, the touchscreens, the build quality and their anti self repair antics.

But the model 3 is very reasonably priced for what it is.

And just because something weighs more doesn't mean that the stopping distance is longer, because more weight means the tires are pressed onto the road harder, which means more grip.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

And it'll watch, listen, and report on you the entire time!

I don't see how people fall for these grocery-store smartphone appliances on wheels, but their predictable, dangerously entitled driving patterns tend to check out.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

RIP Tesla. I will never buy one ever again and now champion against them amongst friends & family. Good riddance.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

European view: I always thought I'd love a Tesla when I make the move to electric.

Would never, ever buy one now and it's purely because of mister half a trillion election purchasing oligarch.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 55 minutes ago

100% agree. I used to dream of owning a Tesla, I used to love Elon Musk. But now that I found out who he really is... meh, I'll never ever buy a Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 hours ago

My parents got one somewhat recently (😒) and I have to say, features are also a negative point. Model Y door override is so inaccessible it might just as well not exist. No haptic control for most things except indicators as they are required by law.

Other than that it's a car like any other, so no reason to support Tesla specifically.

I got myself an i3 2017 a few months back and while you can tell it's a first gen EV and only basic non-BMW features (no Android Auto, only basic BT) I much prefer the i3. No random braking on the road, no crazy lane corrections. Not as powerful as the Tesla, but I drive in Eco, anyway.

I love Tesla for what they did for the EV market, but I'll happily attribute that to the original founders and engineers. M*sk was only PR; if the car was half as tech geeky they'd still be where they are today.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 18 hours ago

I have a Model 3 at the moment. I've had it for almost 5 years and it's generally been great - cheap to run, quiet and comfortable on longer trips but still fun to drive on back roads.

Recently it had its first major breakdown, and although Tesla service did manage to take care of it, it's got me browsing for new EVs - but now, buying a Tesla is not the foregone conclusion it once might have been.

First, they have been making some truly stupid design choices in their latest facelifts (deleting the indicator stalks and gear selector).

Second, their CEO has now gone completely mask-off fascist.

Third - after a few years for the competition to catch up, we now have genuine alternatives from other marques which are just as good if not better EVs than Tesla's offerings.

I think my next car will likely be a Polestar 2.

[–] [email protected] 180 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I used to be really keen on Teslas but a combination of Elon and stories of poor quality and after sales support have killed the brand for me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

The new model 3s are improved upon also in quality I heard and soundproof

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[–] [email protected] 124 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Polestar sells something for a similar price and better quality, and without awkward associations with a billionaire nazi.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Is there a point where Tesla's board will oust him to save the brand?

[–] [email protected] 80 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I personally will never consider a product he's attached to.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I'd support him being attached to one of his rockets at launch

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