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People confuse "can" as in "no one can physically stop it" with "not legally able to".
trump clearly isn't playing by the rules, so we need to be on the right page for what "can" they use.
He legally can't run in 2028, but laws haven't stopped him before.
Can't run for president, but can become VP as someone else's running mate before they conveniently resign on day 1 and enable 4 more years of Trump.
The VP has to be a valid presidential candidate precisely for this loophole.
The bigger problem is that this last election Trump's eligibility was challenged and the supreme court's response was "Parties can pick whoever they like to be president, we'll figure out if they are qualified later". That means the republican party is free to nominate and run Trump for president in 2028. The supreme court would only get involved if he wins the election, in which case... yeah... we've already ran an election which is a huge cluster fuck.
I'd be more worried about this scenario if Trump was a healthy 60 year old man but he's certainly not that. I'll be surprised if he makes it through this term coherent enough to maintain power.
Bro is on that ozempic and Sudafed high, he might actually make it way further than we hope, unfortunately.
Sure, no one can say how long it is but he's near the end of his rope whether he likes it or not
Implying that he is coherent now.
Spite and hatred seem to fuel a lot of old people for many years.
He also can't legally be president because he led an insurrection, but that's not stopping him.
Like seriously, anyone expecting "bureaucracy" to stop these people is huffing a lot of copium.
You literally have business leaders trying and failing to talk Trump out of the tariffs.
The rules literally have not mattered at least since we let our government get away with War Crimes during the Iraq War, this is just the logical end result of that path.
The rules literally have not mattered at least since we let our government get away with War Crimes during the Iraq War, this is just the logical end result of that path.
I'm sure there's plenty more, but that's what I can manage off the top of my head.
Well until recently copium would of involved never seeing the public execution of a healthcare CEO, but here we are.
*would have
Sorry, it just drives me crazy.
"All men are created equal"
Is slave state
Always has been
His brain will be complete mush by then. It's already a tossed salad.
He could try. Some 2a people could potentially do something about that,I don't know!
Ah the old Putin -Medvedev trick.
Bold of them to think we‘ll still have elections then.
we'll have an election in 2028. the question is how fair those elections will be
One man, one vote. Trump'll be the one.
The silver lining is that Trump is extremely likely to keel over from heart failure before then
Unfortunately his replacement is Vance.
Not soon enough
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once
So like how would this play out if he tries? Do the courts say no and tell the states to not put his name on the ballot? Do the states take it into their hands and not put his name off the ballot? What if enough states do put his name on the ballot to win, does the supreme court just say no if he wins?
He'll just say he won, and everyone says "ok" just like they did last month.
@[email protected] posted up above, "Trump's eligibility was challenged and the supreme court's response was 'Parties can pick whoever they like to be president, we'll figure out if they are qualified later'. That means the republican party is free to nominate and run Trump for president in 2028. The supreme court would only get involved if he wins the election, in which case..."
Emphasis mine. So what that means is, he'll be allowed to run, and then his illegitimate Supreme Court will just flip and say "It's too late now!"
Same approach they used to deny Garland his seat back when Obama appointed him, just with different obstructionists. Their MO is 'Rules for Thee, but not for Me'
everyone's just assuming that voting will be a thing at any point in the future
we'll go to war and he'll just declare a perpetual "emergency" and suspend whatever he needs to in order to crown himself supreme leader for life. at least it'll be entertaining to watch all his sycophant cultists tear each other's throats out trying to be named his successor when he finally fucking croaks
Considering that Trump is not eligible to be president because he led an insurrection and the Supreme Court overruled states which tried to uphold that law, I think we can make a guess.
Twenty-Second Amendment Section 1
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
Section 2
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.
Haha! You obviously didn't see that someone snuck into the National Archives and scrawled "in a row" in Sharpie after "more than twice". How do we know that was not just a late amendment?
Since the amendment specifically uses the word 'elected', and Trump claims he won the election in 2020, that means he was ineligible to run for president this year and therefore the election results are invalid.
So what you’re saying is - it’s pretty fucking clear. Steve Bannon is, as per usual, completely full of shit.
Has there ever been a non-violent overthrow of a fascist or otherwise authoritarian regime? Genuine question. I can't think of any, but I'm no expert.
Edit: Thank you, everyone! I'll be reading up on each of these.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnation_Revolution
Not totally non-violent, but the closest I know.
Chile's dictatorship became a democracy after the UN helped pressure Pinochet to hold a vote. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Chilean_presidential_referendum
Not when 80 million people would kiss the dictator’s wrinkled ass.
This will be the line. And MAGA Republicans will fall in line.
Count on it.
Honestly I don't think he could maintain his health for that much longer.
It's an obvious to meant to make us waste time not fighting the near term fights. Bannon is an idiot, we should ignore this and focus on getting ready to resist and insist starting Jan 20th at noon.
Run for what ? I thought that he was supposed to get rid of elections.
So sick of these scum already and donvict's term hasn't even started. Bannon can go fuck himself.
He will be 82 in 2028 and even less coherent than he is now. I am pretty sure the MAGA-idiots are counting on JD Vance to take over and run in 2028 in Trumps place.
Oh, Mitt. There isn't going to be a 2028 election, you beautiful, dumb Moron... Mormon.
Yup, breathing machines can keep old vegetables fresh longer. What was the question?!