I've decided I don't want to have kids at all.
My wife is taking it better than my son and daughter are.
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I've decided I don't want to have kids at all.
My wife is taking it better than my son and daughter are.
I got one because the idea of having kids has always filled me with a keen sense of dread. Any time I hear that someone is expecting a child my first thought is "oh no I'm so sorry" before saying the expected congratulations.
Both my partner and I don't like or want kids, why risk accidents happening?
More people seem to be choosing child free living because of the state of the world and economy rn. I don't blame them.
Get pets like me!
I bet they don't get the same amount a shit a childless woman would going in to get her tubes tied.
The female procedure is a lot more invasive than the male procedure. That's why I had mine done instead of my wife undergoing the surgery.
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And, yes I do realize that's not the point you were trying to make. But it is a factor.
The factor is the self appointed managers of women's biology. They don't want them women to steal kids from some future man. This is the basic line fed a woman I knew who wanted to be sterilized since her family carried the genes for a deadly dehumanizing genetic disease and some shithead doctor told her she was selfish for not wanting her future man to have a choice about kids. She left the southern us and went up north to get he procedure done. When she returned she found a new doctor. This was over twenty years ago. Long before this latest batch of idiots.
Iβve (27m) been told no by multiple doctors. So, sorta? Granted. Last time I tried I was 24 but I hasnβt been easy. Maybe it would be now. I stopped trying.
Weird, you need to find yourself a new doctor. I got mine at 23 and the first time I ever spoke to any doctor that seemed like they were against it was actually only a few months ago, I'm 28 now. Even then they didn't really seem like they were against it so much as they didn't seem to understand why anyone would want one so young.
When I first asked my gen prac about getting snipped he said it was a little unusual for someone as young as me but he said that while actively putting in the referal so it isn't like he was trying to talk me out of it. At the urologist he just asked the standard quick questions of "you understand that it is permanent?" And " you're sure?". Then he put me on a table and got to work.
As a humerous side note, there is one thing I didn't like about getting mine done so young. My urologist (and likely urologists in general) are used to performing vasectomies on much older guys who have a fair bit more scrotal droop to work with. Young perky me didn't have that much droop. It also didn't help that the sterilizing wash the sadists used was ice cold and the room where it was done was freezing. So my poor frozen bits were trying to ascend to party with my tonsils meanwhile this doctor was pulling on them like they were excalibur and he was itching to be crowned king of england just to try and get some slack to work with. Definitely did not enjoy that part. Still worth it though.
This is what happens when the conservatives threaten the right to an abortion. Drastic measures have to be taken.
No kid should be born unloved or a woman have her life threatened because too many ignorant folks think she is sinful for getting healthcare or evil for not raising more wage slaves for the bourgeoisie.
I disagree but unless we get actual data on why people are choosing not to have kids then we don't really know for sure.
I'd say the major reason is wealth inequality, cost of living, inflation, housing prices, etc. Everything's too expensive... everything. It's getting to the point that life isn't even worth living anymore, as its just a repetitive cycle to work and pay bills. I both can't afford to have a kid, nor would I want to bring one into this hellscape.
Again no way to know the real reasons unless we get the data.
It's money first and foremost. People are struggling to survive by themselves. They can't afford kids. So conservatives get rid of abortion. They frame it as a religious issue, but it's only such for their ignorant followers. For those monied individuals at the top its purely about having an ever growing slave caste to exploit. Can't have infinitely growing profits without an infinitely growing base of suckers to sell shit to.
It's also about freedom. Self determination. And the general state of the world. Nothing of substance is being done about climate change. We're staring down the barrel of WWIII. Late Stage capitalism.
It's a confluence of factors that taken together paint a particularly bleak future.
Im planning on getting one soon, and it's definitely this for me.
Also I tend to believe climate scientists who say shit is going to get interesting within the next 20 years.. not really something I'd feel good about bringing a kid into.
One data point and I'm American, but figured I'd give my two cents on why I did it.
In addition to all the reasons you listed I think that my own mental health is an obstacle, and also the increasingly limited access to women's healthcare.
Making the decision to not have kids was a complex issue for me as I imagine it is for others too. Tbh the political and economic climate was probably the final push I needed, but there's probably at least 10 reasons in total.
When animals are over stressed, unable to provide the basics of survival, and constantly dealing with external threats they tend to not have babies.
Why would I force another human into this shitty existence?
Also condoms suck and raw dick is just better.
yea same. condoms suck.
I think this is a great thing to see happening. Men are taking birth control into their own hands. Why take the risk of an unwanted pregnancy? Sometimes other methods fail.
The peace of mind must be amazing too
Being trapped by a woman is not even a crime no matter how bad the facts are, including rape.
Society views men as nothing more than ATM in such cases. Should wraped it up twice lol
So good for them!
Better safe than sorry.
Being born is fine, once you're here you should try to live life to its fullest. But I don't want kids, I would be a horrid father.
Let's not forget about child care, cause you know, in this economy both parents typically need to work to keep their heads financially above water.
Iβm sorry, there is an international chat group where a bunch of doctors that perform vasectomies congregate and talk about vasectomies?
Gotta share the best practices, its like the postmarket os matrix chat where tech enthusiasts support each other improving builds ;)
I mean, yeah, why not? There are international whatevers for almost anything, specially professional practices. It's less cumbersome and cheaper than relying on regulatory bodies to organize and run conventions or seminars. Most of these chats are informal and born from that kind of events as well.
Something I also learned from working with the health sector is that there are really very few 100% dedicated to their niche specialists in every area. Sure, there are many heart surgeons, but very few experts on ventricular septal defect surgery on children. And some of that stuff can be so complex as to be a sole area of dedicated study. It allows these kind of informal forums and encourages a strong mentor-apprentice dynamics. So it is not rare they hit the group chat every once in a while. I also learned there are over a dozen different ways to make a vasectomy procedure and some doctors know how to do a few but not all of them and there are reasons to prefer some over the others depending on the patient.
Welcome to the Internet - you're new here, I take it?
Continue not taxing the rich and making conditions worse for the 99%. Let's see how it works out.
This is what happens when you can't afford raising kids and also more and more people decide that they would rather just enjoy their life without the responsibility or or financial burden of raising kids. I don't know how i feel about this due to the our birth rate not doing so well, and instead of people having children, we have to import people into the country (which i have no problem with but that really isn't a solution).
that really isn't a solution
why not? are you afraid of johnny whitebread "real" ~~murican~~ canadian getting....replaced?
the fact that the 1% is shitting their pants over the declining birthrate makes me think it's fan fucking tastic. every industry's profit margin suffers from fewer babies. less money is spent on food, gas, clothes, giant SUVs, toys, medicine--literally everything you buy for yourself, you're also buying for your kids for 18 years. unless you don't have kids.
those poor, poor shareholders.
fuck them. low birthrate = GOOD.
also, please--who wants to have a kid just so they can explain to them why they're growing up in a toxic wasteland?
Can anyone here who's gotten one comment on the vasectomy process? I've been pretty nervous seeing a lot of the comments about it. I don't even do well with a normal blood draw. I feel like I'd need general anesthesia for this.
I've never had kids. Got it done down in TX. Told the doc I've never wanted them and didn't want to pay for anymore abortions.
I did it fully conscious with local anesthesia because I had no one to pick me up and look after me if I took the knockout gas. There were a couple tiny pricks of pain next to the base of my penis, then numbness. An unpleasant tugging sensation in each testicle when he positioned my vas deferens to cut, cauterize, and clamp the ends. That was the worst part, but like I say, it didn't hurt. Aside from that, I nervously wisecracked with the nurses, who politely laughed and joked back. Then I put my pants back on, paid the bill (ouch!), drove myself home, and spent the weekend getting high and playing video games with frozen gel packs under my balls. All that felt like was the dull tenderness you get a little while after a blow to the junk. Totally manageable. I took some Advil or something.
Against advice, I returned to my strenuous job 3 or 4 days afterwards, and jerked off repeatedly much sooner than suggested. I've experienced zero complications, but ymmv. Taking my wisdom teeth out was much worse. Getting a tattoo is far more painful. It was a bit worse than getting my ears pierced, but healed faster.
8/10 Would totally repeat the experience just for the days off with zero responsibilities. My only regret is I didn't do it at 18.
Was really nbd. Gave me a local. Felt no pain at the time. Spent the next day in bed with ice on it. A little soreness, cleared up quickly. Way better than a kidneystone, fwiw.
No kids, never wanted them, made sure I never have them. Happily married for 8 years, she never wants kids either.
Here's the thing about abortion in Canada ...
I'm doing my part.
But seriously, men should be more responsible when it comes to birth control and not leave it up to women, so I think this is a good thing.