this post was submitted on 11 Dec 2024
487 points (99.2% liked)

micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

2397 readers
165 users here now

Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

Feel free to also check out

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

It's a little sad that we need to actually say this, but:

Don't be an asshole or you will be permanently banned.

Respectful debate is totally OK, criticizing a product is fine, but being verbally abusive will not be tolerated.

Focus on discussing the idea, not attacking the person.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Only 10HP? It's not likely to live very long with such a low amount of hit points.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

It makes up for it with enough mana to keep a shield spell up indefinitely.

If you're still worried, though, you can pair it with a Volvo for tanking and a Fiat 500 for nimble single target dps and flanking.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A Fiat 500? Glass cannon much?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Rogues often are 🤷

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

The other AC

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Looks like if you ever hit a pebble on the road it would probably flip and kill you. Note also the conspicuous absence of a seat belt. Cute little death machine.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Did anything have a seatbelt in 1944?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Volvo filed a patent for some sort of seatbelt in 1889. SAAB became the first car company to make any sort of seatbelt standard in 1958. Volvo became the first car company to install modern 3 point belts as standard equipment in 1959.

So yes, but actually probably not.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So a patent existed prior, but that doesn't mean they were made. SAAB made them standard 14 years after this car. Do with no other data, I'd say no and no.

Edit: just realized that reads like I'm being pissy, but that wasn't the tone my finger was swiping with. Thanks for the data!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well the key word there is standard. I'm guessing that seatbelts were optional equipment prior to that, because I have seen a '50 SAAB 92 that had a driver's side lap belt, which I believe was original equipment. I have also seen a '45 Chevy truck that also had a lap belt, but I'm unsure if that was original equipment.

That's why I said yes, but probably not.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

I like it. Why live with potentially life changing injuries, when you can simply have your neck broken by your seatbelt instead.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, that was before Ralph Nader made a whole ruckus about car safety (and rightly so). Still, we're looking at this from the year 2024 so you can really tell this vehicle doesn't make sense in our time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I sometimes think about Ralph Nader, and the overall balance sheet of lives he is directly responsible for saving, vs lives that he is (I guess indirectly) responsible for ruining and/or ending due to spoiling the 2000 election.

Interesting thought experiment. I guess.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It's almost a motorcycle. Something like this would be great for commuting, if not for all the Compensator™ Trucks and SUVs on the road.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That last picture doesn't look too bad

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

^^^

Even comes with a napping package

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

The long sleep in the great blue beyond

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's easy to make a 100mpg car. All you need is to make it small, flimsy, no aircon, no heater, no stereo, no airbags, toss emissions standards out, pack you in like a snake going up a bear's anus, and drive around at a steady 25 mph without any stops.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Idk, Dutch micro cars are pretty comfortable. They're quieter, safer for pedestrians, and environmentally friendly. Had a chance to use one last time I was in the Netherlands. The American mindset of "it has to be a giga-truck or it's bad" really sucks.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (19 children)

I'm in love with the Citroen Ami

I mean just look at this little guy. If I had ovaries, they'd be popping right now.

load more comments (19 replies)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, that's pretty much what I mean. I'm having trouble finding references to the gas milage of the Canta, but Kei cars tend to max out around 60mpg, and the Canta is only a bit smaller. I also found plenty of posts from locals saying it's loud, uncomfortable, and unsafe.

The Peel P50 can get close to 100mpg, but that's pushing what a person can even fit in. This sort of thing is pushing into "why not get a moped?" territory.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The original Honda Insight from 2001 got 68 highway, 60 city. And it had all the goodies you'd want in a "modern" car like airbags, aircon, heat, 2 relatively roomy seats, etc. Close to the Doodlebug's best possible mpg with twice the passengers.

Unfortunately, after 20 years of improvement in auto design, material science, etc, the new Honda Insight in 2022 actually has notably worse city /highway mpg from the original, because it's so much bigger.

I guess my point is all the innovation in the world won't fix the fundamental problem that people want bigger and bigger cars?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Auto manufacturers want bigger and bigger vehicles, and they've done an excellent job of convincing the masses that they aren't safe without one, or a man, or they'll look poor. Most people I'd wager if given the proper knowledge and experience wouldn't want to drive a huge lumbering land whale, they've just been told their entire life that they do.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's that last thing that america (or at least California) has an issue with. We fucking love stop signs. If you have a stop sign every other block, your mpg is gonna be in the range matt gaetz would be interested in regardless of what car you drive.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

That thing looks like it falls over on its side if you look at it funny.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I'd want to do 45 in that thing, hell of a way to go if you got speed wobbles. I could see a use for kei vehicles in downtown areas. Traffic is so bad that a car's top speed might be 30 if you are lucky. Mass transit, bikes and tiny vehicles are what most people could easily get away with day to day.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it looks like a Twinkie fucked a space ship.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

The world would be a more fun place if we all drove bumper cars

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

So a motor scooter with a car-like wrapper.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's terribly inefficient for a motorcycle

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How do you figure? 70mpg isn't too shabby for a motorcycle today. In the 40s? 70mpg is pretty bonkers for a 40s machine.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

One wheel in front?

It's a TRICYCLE!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

It looks like a bumper car without the bumpers and pole

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

If you sneeze you can do a kickflip.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My 2007 Ninja 250 made about 35 horsepower, could achieve a top speed over 100 mph and could also travel nearly 70 miles on a gallon of gas.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Cool, now make it HPV or EV.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

HPV

It's been vaccinated.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Looks like a giant tape dispenser.

load more comments
view more: next ›