if iam sitting like this iam not listening, because i am to busy trying to keep sitting like this.
give me atleast a deck of cards to shuffle and allow me to look around.
if iam sitting like this iam not listening, because i am to busy trying to keep sitting like this.
give me atleast a deck of cards to shuffle and allow me to look around.
I have a friend who pulled their kid out of public school largely because of posters like this.
The clincher was when they were going over some material about classroom / playground behaviour and bad feelings. They colour coded the feelings, like Blue is Sad and Red is Angry. Yellow was Wiggly, which described most fidgeting behaviours.
Teachers were telling kids that if you had any of the bad feelings you had to quietly sit by yourself until you're feeling better.
My friend has ADHD and took exception to the idea that being fidgety was a 'bad' feeling. And in general, none of these are ultimately bad feelings to have. I mean, nobody really wants to be sad or angry, but telling children they're bad for having feelings is fucked up no matter how you slice it.
I admit that if a child is disruptively angry, then a timeout is warranted. We have the same rule for adults, and if you can't control your temper then you need to cool off before you can be civil again. But telling kids that they can't hang out with their friends if they're feeling sad or fidgety is just cruel and pointless. It has potential to cause a lot of harm to a child's development for the sake of 'classroom discipline'
I was able to sit still just fine. Unfortunately, I would dissociate to be able to do this and as a result I had no idea what the hell was going on.
I hate the disassociation so much, especially since I have no control over when it happens. I'm always missing the first few words of a conversation when someone starts talking to me and have to use context to figure out what they're talking about. The worst is when it happens in the middle of a conversation. I'm trying to listen but then suddenly I just tune-out without warning, often without realizing it.
It's beyond frustrating, especially when you're trying to have healthy relationships. I come across as uncaring and selfish, which is the worst part. Nobody believes me when I say that I'm trying my hardest to listen.
Hard relate. It really sucks and "active listening skills" do help a lot but it's no substitute for just... Being able to follow along without incredible amounts of effort.
I feel like sometimes I get grace by brushing it off as "sorry I spaced out what did you say about XYZ?" but that only goes so far.
Sit still? Be quiet? Fine.
Consciousness falls inward, a galactic space battle with sapient dinosaurs ensues
ADHD-PI has no issues with sitting still and quiet. Focus and paying attention, not so much.
They beat shit like this into me in the 80s along with making eye contact, I can mask with the best of them!
Luckily, this is not a thing anymore. At least not in Canada. We're in a small rural town in Alberta, so I have to assume we are in pretty much the worst place in Canada for it, too. But my niece has ADHD and they are very inclusive about it now. Chewing gum is allowed, music is allowed, fidgets are allowed, and wiggly chairs are allowed. And none of the other kids in her class are bothered by it, they have their own things too, and they are all learning just fine.
Still a thing in rural USA.
I don't have ADHD, but I imagine this is like showing a picture of a kid standing to one in a wheelchair saying be more like this.
Remember: The current School system exists to churn out factory workers not create intellect people
They had posters like these in the therapy room in the special needs school I went to.
Along with the zones of regulation, posters about being assertive, and superheroes coded with different 'desirable' behaviours.
The fuck is this? "How to be a good citizen" brought to you by Big Brother.
conservatives basically just dress that up to make it sound nicer, but in the end it's precisely what they aspire to
go figure i've ended up on the polar opposite side of the political spectrum and only manage to refrain from shouting about unions because i'm good at masking
I'm pretty sure if my foot ever stops shaking I'll explode. Church was the worst for me as a kid. My dad would hold my knee down the entire time.
Woof, that sucks.
The church I grew up in, which has a very “high church” liturgical style, just accepts that children make sound. There’s always a constant low-volume noise from anll the kids and people just ignore it. After all, Christ said, “Suffer little children, and forbid them not to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.”
Church shouldn’t be about rigidity or the appearance of perfection, it flies in the face of the core of the Christian religion. But I don’t think most Christians really think about their faith in living terms, they think about the trappings and appearance and going through the proper motions (as is evidenced by the evangelicals flocking to hate-filled shysters like Trump).
While there is certainly spiritual value in the ritual, it cannot be at the expense of the meaning. All rigidity does is make church suck.
Yeah church was terrible for us leg shakers. I still flinch any time someone makes a sudden movement and my leg is shaking because I'm still expecting a back of the head slap.
ohh yeah I remember this garbage from elementary school. depersonalization starts early in the school system. you're not allowed to be a kid or act like one. you're in the 2nd grade and supposed to be a full-grown-adult.
Brain - Buzzing like a hive full of bees with one person attempting to herd them
in second grade the teacher put my desk on the other side of a bookshelf, separated from the rest of the class. :(
Hate this shit. I remember being a kid. It was torture. I was cut some slack since my academics were really good. But it was still a pain.
Brain: Albuquerque.
They're right. I get the point, you should pay attention and not be disruptive, but there are definitely ways to fidget that aren't distracting to others.
Eyes: watching a bird outside Ears: listening to the janitor buff the hallway floor Lips: mouthing the lyrics to the damn song that's been floating around your head for nine days straight Hands: wait! I forgot i had those! Shit! What do i do with these? Feet: tappitytappitytappitytappitytappity...
I feel like I've seen this picture as a child and.... You know what fuck this bullshit. I hated school.
Well there are some kids that have massive front teeth so those mouths ain't closing
a yellow classroom with a blue floor? what a fantasy, in real life classrooms are all sterile white (or black of you're extremely lucky) and have absolutely no hint of warmth or life.
I'm honestly just glad my brain has erased all detailed memories of my time in school, best thing that ever happened to me was dropping out.
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