Spidow man rule : 196

[–] [email protected] 7 points 54 minutes ago

This sadly reminds me of when an Official Star Wars Youtube channel did animations to introduce the main characters to a younger generation. There's one of Leia where they re-enact her shooting the group's way into the garbage area.

And literally there were dozens of Far Right Star Wars "Fan" channels screaming about it, claiming that no scene like that existed in the actual movie and that they were "re-writing history to make Leia look more important than she really is"

They really are just massive sexists who pretend Rey's a Mary Sue and that Leia never did anything but wear the slave outfit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I've been trying to wrap my head around this too. Just yesterday, I was thinking "what would Mr. Rogers say/think at a time like this?"

Then it dawned on me that maybe the worst parts of society had a radically different upbringing and media exposure than myself. ^1^ The so-called "violent" cartoons (many of which were just toy commercials) I get and recall people keeping that stuff from their kids. But to think of banning something like (1980's) PBS in your home, of all things. Now I understand why that messaging existed in the first place - we might be worse off right now without it.

1. Insert "we-are-not-the-same-gen-x.jpg" meme here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

My only hope about public radio/TV, going forward, is that they're already so used to operating on a shoestring budget from the government. It will unfortunately mean more funding drives, but I will definitely be far more likely to contribute if that becomes literally their only source of income.

And maybe without money from the government, they will be more independent, as lately NPR has been sliding right as an overcorrection over idiots that think reporting objective reality is biased because it makes their side look bad.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 hours ago

I like the accuracy of the eyes growing over time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (7 children)

usually, by "woke" movies people mean movies only made for the sake of being "woke", no? like its only message is "here's all the diversity, look, look, at our big woke diverse movie! now, give us the moneys we are so diverse look at us and don't bother us anymore with your agenda!"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Lol no. Often a video game will get called "woke" for simply having a female protagonist with short hair.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 53 minutes ago

God forbid she's muscular and doesn't show stereotypical hetero-normative traits too

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 hour ago

usually, by "woke" movies people mean movies only made for the sake of being "woke", no?

This is what people using the term really want you to think. That they're fine with incidental/statistically correct/non-performative diversity and inclusion and are just pointing out when it happens for the sake of itself to the detriment of the quality of media.

The reality though is quite different, and people will call "woke" at almost any non-white, non-straight, or non-male character in a major role, or a non-cis character in even a passing role.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Generally Republicans and Trumpists use "woke" to describe anything they don't like that seems to slightly swing liberal rather than anything specific.

Originally "woke" was slang in the black community meaning to understand the risks of being black in the world and basically was an equivalent of saying "drive safely!" or a Midwestern "watch for deer!" in wishing one a friendly goodbye

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Woke == Haram. It's christian sharia law. You know, that thing conservatives have been fear mongering about for what like 20 years. Except want their version of it for real.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

That is the hyperbolic caricature conservatives apply in their head, sure.

It’s a pretty common approach to complicated issues.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, there's a pretty huge list of "woke" video games and they include titles that have an optional 1 minute scene of homosexual romance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

so, to just have something to be angry about

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

I'm pretty sure even if that was the case, the word was hijacked by bigots to insult anything they disagree with.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Black Panther was seemingly made for the sake of being the MCU's first black-lead movie. And it's great. Drag can't think of any other movies made for the sake of being woke, so we'll just have to rely on this sample size of 1 which says woke movies are awesome.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

How much are we considering earlier Marvel as part of the MCU? Because even though it was before Iron Man/Hulk and the official "start" of the current MCU, a lot of people seem to forget that the Blade Trilogy existed...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Howard the Duck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It was ok. I didn’t get the hype around it and didn’t think it was great or as good as everyone was saying it was.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Same. I was told "It's nothing like the other MCU movies, you'll love it!", and I watched it and... it's probably the best MCU movie I've seen, but still very MCU.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

We have entered an era where everything must be equal. Are you interviewing a highly qualified medical specialist? Make sure you also bring in a conspiracy theorist who didn't finish high school but has an account on twitter to present a dissenting opinion. “Every opitnons deserves to be heard, today we have an alpha male and a rape victim, listeners will be able to make up their own minds about who provoked who.”

[–] [email protected] 96 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Just wait until the adults are people who grew up with the YouTube algorithm

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

yt has been around for some 18 years now. there are already adults who grew up with it

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

YouTube changed. Of cause it always had some kind of algorithm but The Algorithm is relatively new

[–] [email protected] 3 points 52 minutes ago

I really hate it, YouTube has more restrictions than Cable TV now... I remember when you were allowed to reference the fact that death, bigotry, and sexual assault existed. Now on Youtube you're only allowed to reference the latter two if you're PragerU and tying to say these are "Good things ackshaulkly"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, we've gone from 'charlie but me' to 'charlie pretends he's not a Nazi on a clip from fox news'

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Did Charlie get his kidney back? That damn Candy Mountain......

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They seem to be talking about it (and by extension streaming) as a replacement for TV. But TV was still a big thing 18 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

“TV” still does just not tv. At least kids I know are streaming descendants zombies victorious. Basically anything with singing and yes a hefty dose of YouTube thrown in.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Slightly off topic, but it just dawned on me that the youngest generation might not have as universal of a childhood compared to some before.

Like, everyone in school knew what SpongeBob was. Maybe you didn't have a TV or you didn't like watching it, but you knew the characters and the general gist of what happens in the show.

With kids on such giant platforms like YouTube, there's so much variety, I wonder if the "brand recognition" will be as strong in 10 years.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I imagine that 10-20 years from now, there will be a lot more young adults bonding over vague memories of videos that they loved when little, but that they can't find a shred of anymore. Creators will have risen and fallen through the years. Some will shut down their channels and retire, others will be demonetized, and yet more will simply disappear without a trace. There won't be a backlog of every kids' video on YouTube; it's not like PBS or Nickelodeon, where popular shows might get officially archived. Instead, people will be left vaguely describing plots they can't fully remember, all the while getting a weird look from those who don't know what they're talking about. They may even come to think, "Maybe I just dreamed it all up?" and give up on their search for nostalgic connection.

Until the day one person finds an old screenshot from whatever the show was and shares it. That's when everyone will flip out because, Holy shit, that's it! That's the show! At which point, they will collectively and slowly realize just how messed up the show actually was.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm 29 and this is already the case. A lot of the early 2000s internet is already getting hard to find, and even a lot of early YouTube feels like it's been scrubbed clean, or had stuff auto-muted/removed due to copyright that drastically affects the content. Not to mention all the flash animations and whatnot that might not have made it to somewhere as big as Newgrounds. There's a lot of stuff I remember watching that seems to be utterly lost

[–] [email protected] 1 points 51 minutes ago

Early 2000's internet was best internet

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I’m sure most kids know about Skibidi Toilet, the Paul brothers and Mr Beast.

What’s worse, is that the Paul brothers and Mr Beast use their influence to promote products directly to the children. Like Prime.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Many shows when we were kids were just drivers for toy sales though. Product placement was also huge and unregulated.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 hours ago

True, but I like Transformers so it’s ok

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't remember the people behind Power Rangers using their influence to get me to agree to being put through what amounts to torture for the hope of getting enough money to pay my bills though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That’s odd, because I seem remember lots of pro-capitalist messaging on TV when I was growing up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

We were pressured to buy the toys, but we didn't have anything on the order of IRL Squid Game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

I was playing with your idea of getting put through torture to get money to pay the bills - if you interpret that as encouraging us to get a job under capitalism, it’s basically what that amounts to!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

I've noticed with my kids it's more about streamers. They all know them by name. They'll talk about their latest videos like we would with TV show episodes.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Woke is when eyes more open. Checks out.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Well, I am not "woke", I am eepy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 hours ago

You can be both. I know I am.

[+] [email protected] -10 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

That seems like an older millennial. It’s younger millenials and gen z that are swinging conservative.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You seem to be a young boomer since they are the only ones making broad generalizations about generations as if they were a homogeneous group

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Really I see tons of people making generalizations of boomers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 59 minutes ago

Ok boomer

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It’s the fucking Democrats who are swinging conservative and they have been for decades.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Look, if they get just a little more conservative they'll win over moderate Republicans.

Once we have them, we'll be able to do all those really great things like deregulating banks, dismantling the EPA, and illegalizing abortion once and for all.