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https://www.reddit.com/r/Hasan_Piker/comments/1gomthb/nick_fuentes_maces_57_year_old_woman_who_showed/

White nationalist Nick Fuentes was doxed on Friday in the fallout of his viral “My body, your choice” comment. Today, a 57 year old Jewish female journalist showed up to his house, rang the doorbell, and was maced and shoved by Fuentes. Cops and an ambulance showed up. Linked is her Facebook post. Details are limited because this is breaking.

https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10161831224895688&id=578640687

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 3 days ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 112 points 3 days ago (1 children)

fascists be like "you must take me seriously" and their home is on Home Avenue i-cant

[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I live at 1234 House Boulevard and I believe the white race will retvrn to the 1950s ads and win a holy war on the world and then Based Aryan Santa Claus and his army of Jolly Elven Groypers will come out from their century of hiding from the woke mob to unsoy our blood and show us how to get to Hyperborea

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

finally, somebody gives a sufficient explanation for the "war on Christmas" conspiracy theories

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

The war on Christmas will end only when it withdraws from its illegal occupation of November.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

Blues Brothers Mentioned doggirl-thumbsup

[–] [email protected] 81 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago (3 children)

interesting that his house is blurred out on street view.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago

Doesn’t matter bc someone uploaded a photo of the house yday

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can request this to google

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

I believe you pay for the privilege too.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

There's no home there, there's just a big brown home shaped blob in between 1824 and 1828 Home ave, Berwyn IL, in between the very similar looking, predictable row houses. How could you possibly think there's anything there, it's clearly a vacant lot

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

This man was the original Joe Bob of horror movies and you can't cmv

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So Nick just publicly confirmed that this is indeed his address. So he'll get a steady stream of visitors now.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Target location comfirmed. Charging ion cannon.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Except that he is now living in his mom's basement to avoid visitors at his doxxed address.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So there is nobody at his home to prevent damage to his property, interesting thonk

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

Cameras and cops, don't be dum (general statement)

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Unpopular opinion, sure he's a fascist moron, but this woman clearly is playing stupid games and won a stupid prize.

If you think you're going to "confront fascists" or "do journalism on them" you're liable for this kind of shit. Americans have literally lost the fucking plot, especially these Dem Party Fedayeen women who don't know what they're actually signing up for and think they're fucking invincible. If this had been a much more intelligent and vicious Nazi this woman would have been dead.

This reminds me of the whole Kamala Harris series on "you can vote different than you husband" which hilariously didn't pan out in the actual voting. Furthermore it incited a very real moral panic on the right wing, which could have ended horribly across the country. Had Kamala won, the moral panic she stoked would have left many women vulnerable to domestic violence regardless of their actual vote.

Stop playing with these people in real life. All Fuentes has to do is literally call the police a couple of times before he's gonna get free reign to shoot you through the door and the fascist American cops and juries aren't going to get you justice. Stop being idiots. Normal people aren't going to take your side for harassing someone you think is bad.

Kyle Rittenhouse is free for a much more egregious murder. Remember that. You're on uneven terrain. Unless you're going to shoot first, stop larping.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 days ago

Agreed. If someone is going to confront him, there needs to be a resolution to that event illegal-to-say

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Macing people that come up to your door surely cannot be justifiable in a legal context, right?

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Endlessly postures about what a strong, superior breed of man he is, but all he can do is cowardly ambush a target much weaker than himself. Typical fash shit. It's just like how the IDF can bomb schools all day but disintegrates the moment it hits actual armed resistance.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago

Mace too, like a total wimp.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is wild. She even confirmed the address in her post. lmao.

Illinois is not a stand your ground state. Instead, it is a castle doctrine state. That means that individuals may stand their ground when they are in their homes, but not when they are outside of their homes. If a person is in their residence, they do not have to back down to threats of violence. If they are out of their homes, they must attempt to retreat instead of using self-defense

I hope she sues his ass. It would be so funny if this fucker ends up in jail

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

none of this actually describes what Nick Fuentes was doing but it's not as simple as castle vs stand your ground. important to know if you own a gun or plan on taking a trip to Berwyn

720 ILCS 5/7-2

A person is justified in the use of force against another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent or terminate such other's unlawful entry into or attack upon a dwelling.

Illinois also has a (roundabout) home defense exception in 720 ILCS 5/7-1 but I'm not sure if it's argued this way in court. Residential burglary is a "forcible felony"

A person is justified in the use of force against another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or another against such other's imminent use of unlawful force. However, he is justified in the use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or another, or the commission of a forcible felony.

note that this also does not impose a duty to retreat. You can use (non-deadly) force whenever it's necessary to defend yourself or someone else. Don't trust legal blogspam read the law yourself

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

legal blogspam

Perfect term for those dogshit articles that pop up whenever I’m trying to do research

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Also recognize what the law considers the opposing party doing. This is purely harassment, and she admitted it. Nobody is going to rule in her favor in a criminal court.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Confirmed, he still lives there. Oh no, what might someone do with such information...

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

President Xi, please send Chengdu J-20 Mighty Dragon twin-engine all-weather stealth fighters

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Legally speaking i cant imagine he has any ground to stand on? You cant just assault someone for ringing your doorbell. Thats insane. Hope he gets prison time but knowing American legal system he probably wont.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

MURICA BABY, under a more sensible legal system he should have been thrown in jail long ago for being a fascist grifter who incites violence.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the justice system won't touch him.

he's got trump's favor and we know the existing lib establishment is scrambling to kowtow to him preemptively

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Dunno. Normally I'd say he'd probably cop charges or at least a ride to the station, but since he was just doxxed that might change the math on permissable self defense.

Though he did voluntarily open and answer the door so that might throw him bacvk to aggressor

shrug-outta-hecks

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All he has to do is show the court her post, and it's game over. She literally admitted to premeditated harassment.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mind posting or summarizing what she said? I can't see the Facebook post as I don't have an account

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

The whole context is getting nuked on FB and Reddit. Here's a screen-cap of the post. Note how it doesn't start out with, "I'm a journalist", it starts out with "This guys sucks and I'm going to do something".

Also here's another comment from her and what the cops think:

Edit: Found the full full post:

In court and to any normal human this reads as looking for a fight. She cannot even explain what she wanted out of the outcome. She didn't mention being a journalist. This is all hysteria.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Oof. I mean good for her, but she seems very unprepared and unaware of how the legal system works.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I hate that I know exactly where this is but feel powerless to do anything beyond "yeah call the local government so they can talk about how they value freedom of speech and therefore can't do anything"

This fucking state, I stg. Two years ago, the biggest nazi metal fest in the country booked in their town, and all the local govt office could say to me instead of "yeah we gonna shut it down" was "well nazis are bad but also we value free speech so they can do what they want and we will just send extra cops."

Wonder how many cops ended up buying a ticket.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Be real, the pigs got free tickets.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Or they worked security and got paid to be there

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

Nah, that absolutely was not a justified use of force.

That being said no court will hear it because as a white man he is allowed discretion in use of violence if it upholds hierarchy

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

Make fascists ~~afraid~~ dead again

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

next time go strapped

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