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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

"The things we said we're gonna do? We're doing them."

:O

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Narcissist's Prayer

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault.

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did, you deserved it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Republicans consider a "joke" to mean what they retroactively designate something that they meant in earnest as soon as they get pushback.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The velocity of those goalposts is astounding.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Goalpost Railgun

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

That goes against what I believe so I will reject it.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Don't catch you slippin' now

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 days ago (19 children)

This is why America deserves everything it voted for this time around.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The people who voted for evil do.

The people who failed to vote against evil do, but less.

The people who voted against evil? No fuckin chance.

"America" is too wide a brush, but I get talking that way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Pour one out for all the people drilled into being ultra-gullible when it comes to Fox&Co-Conspirators and completely immunised to viewpoints that contradict the propaganda machine. Would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

A lot of people are going to suffer who didn't vote for him. This is as callous as the fascists.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

there are alot of voters that didn't vote *at all *.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Conservative / fascist leaders deserve it, the rest of us do not. The kids who were too young to vote, the leftists who fight against fascism, and the workers who don't have the time to follow politics do not deserve any of what is to come.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Young voters voted for Trump. Tons of kids support him: https://www.axios.com/2024/11/07/young-men-voters-trump-2024-exit-polls

Unionized workers had grassroots support for Trump: https://www.axios.com/2024/09/18/teamsters-endorsement-harris-trump-2024

Staunch democrats sat out, or protest voted: https://www.axios.com/local/detroit/2024/11/07/why-biden-outperformed-harris-throughout-metro-detroit

Ignorantia juris non excusat. Ignorance of the law excuses not.

America is objectively, measurably, ignorant, trapped in bubbles, and we collectively did little to lift each other out. We are going to face justice for it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

You had me until that last group.

If you opt out of participating, you deserve whatever happens without you.

We're in this mess arguably because of all the people who chose not to participate.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Conservatives: I like [insert obnoxious conservative figurehead] because they tell it like it is, they mean what they say

Also conservatives, sometimes in the same breath: Fake! [obnoxious conservative figurehead] didn't mean that! Taken out of context! 'Tis but a jape!

Jesus fuck the reality distortion field is strong, it's like doublethink but without being a clever social trick to survive, it's just they're that stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 379 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 125 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Trump was already facing multiple criminal and civil suits in 2016. They had 8+ years to hold him accountable for even a single thing, and didn't.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Yeah this is an important point. If the system lets guys like Trump get away with obvious crimes for 8 years, and that's when it's working as intended, then the system needs to be dismantled. Maybe the only way to drain the swamp is to let it turn into a sinkhole that drags everything down with it. Not that we have much choice in the matter at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 295 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

“No one in their right mind is backing 2025…”

Then why did YOU?!

[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 days ago (9 children)
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[–] [email protected] 245 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

"He's probably just joking" is something I heard so much over the past few years about things the right has been spewing. THEY ARE NOT JOKING, THEY ARE NEVER JOKING! I don't know how this is a hard thing to understand.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 3 days ago

Also, if they are lying about these things, why did they vote for a liar? A lot of people who called agenda 2025 fake or lies still voted for the party representing it.

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[–] [email protected] 192 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I used to have a boss who like to joke about firing people on his team. He was a nice guy and there was no ill intention behind the jokes, but we eventually had to sit him down and tell him that he couldn't joke about that stuff because it causes a great deal of stress to people given his position.

Another example is bomb jokes in airports. Aside from just being in poor taste, that's something that will get you arrested and probably put on a no-fly list for life because it's an extremely serious matter with no exceptions.

So, even if Trump and his people are just joking about these horrible things, it's completely unacceptable when it's entirely believable they would do this stuff and would be in a position to make it happen.

TLDR: There are just some things you don't fucking joke about.

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[–] [email protected] 157 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"I don't like it when you show me what I'm supporting"

[–] [email protected] 82 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Hold MAGA accountable. Every. Single. Day.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

I also argued with someone who said the information was a badly organized protest and said I was overreacting lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

RumbaGPT, how will this play out?

He's probably just joking and if he's not, it's not so bad and if it is that bad it won't affect you and it if will you deserve it

[–] [email protected] 95 points 3 days ago (10 children)
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[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 days ago

bullies always start out "joking"

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The time for being reasonable and trying to convince willfully ignorant fucks is long past. You tell them they are a fucking fool. You block them on all communication channels. You never talk to them again. Trying to reason with an idiot is a waste of time. If anything you feed their thought process they are right by debating. They should all be ignored. They should all be cut off from their loved ones and friends.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago

Shut them down, but leave them a route out.

It's a cult, one of the goals is to trap people within them. The worst thing we can do is shove people back into that box, once they try and escape. It might be satisfying, but it's also extremely counterproductive.

If America wants to actually win, you either need to outlive, or deconvert the members. The first will take generations, I presume you don't want to have to wait that long?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

We know most of them are stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They've lied so much and gaslit so much that people don't know what to believe anymore.

And with all the AI and Russian troll farm bullshit being posted on social media, it's just poisoning the truth. It's time to ditch Twitter, Facebook and company.

I keep telling my folks that and that they'll end up being influenced and manipulated but they refuse because of how convenient it is. And I almost have to keep it because that's the only way they communicate right now.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 days ago (10 children)

I listened to many interviews with people convinced that Trump wouldn't do the things he said he would do. They definitely won't acknowledge the things he said he won't do.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Worried about making white people uncomfortable is how we got here in this first place.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Like the citizens of Weimar (near concentration camp Buchenwald) said in april 1945: wir haben es nicht gewusst

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (4 children)

How delusional. They’re gonna try to pass all of it.

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