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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

don't forget that the new outlook app right out steals the login details to your email accounts, along with all emails you will send and receive even after uninstalling that malware:

https://proton.me/blog/outlook-is-microsofts-new-data-collection-service

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Isn't this an extreme security issue for companies?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

No, because every company of the world is already a O365 customer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

It's amazing, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Alternatively they are using google and their webmail client, no windows mail needed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

¯\(ツ)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I switched to Thunderbird when they started to get insistent about switching to Outlook.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I switched to eM Client... Happy to pay for an alternative email client platform

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Funny they killed the free tier almost the same day as Microsoft made the outlook announcement. I dumped both of them for Thunderbird. Not as pretty but does the job for the limited use case I have:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Annoying you can’t sign in to the new app with a business account unless you have a specific license. Windows mail has no such restriction.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Because it's worse than new outlook, and that says something.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I sometimes click on, "Try the New Outlook" button because I like pain.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Hey, hey now, no kink shaming found here! 🤣

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I always think "this time I will make it work." I'm sure you can figure out the rest

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

"I can fix her" vibes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

But it isn't, actually.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

So they are keeping the Mail app, but changing it so you can't send or receive email. That seems pretty pointless. Just remove it from Windows altogether and be done with it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m sure there is a hidden dependency from the file system or something…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Calendar depends on it. Even in windows 11, mail and calendar accounts in settings don't function right if mail (& calendar) is removed

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm reasonably certain they are not aware of how to remove anything from windows.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Explains why control panel and settings are both still a thing like a decade after they said they'd be removing the former.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So they are replacing windows mail with Microsoft outlook, which was replaced by windows mail years ago (well not really 100% true, its fun to think of it that way)

Although, to be fair, maintaining two mail clients is pretty stupid.

If they can stop pushing all the separate half baked "new"/"beta/"work" versions of mail and teams, and just update them so everyone's on the same garbage apps, that would be great.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I just love how outlook is supposedly their best effort in the email segment, yet I have literally had it show me that a new email has arrived, then hiding it, and the only way for it to become visible again is to restart the app. This happens at least once a week.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Happens to me all the time too, I'll open it via the notification and it just won't show up.

Or I'll delete an email about 5 time until its finally gone.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kind of funny. Windows mail is actually the only Microsoft app I actually kind of like. At least design wise. I like how friendly and kind of mobile UI-ish it looks.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Same, it's clean, straightforward and fast unlike the shitty web wrapper that is the new Outlook. If they go ahead with this, I might actually just go ahead and start writing a clone.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Narrator: No one ever asked for it or is using it already.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Yes please explain to me why I won't want to use Microsoft mail.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Jokes on you Microsoft, I recently ditched windows.