Immigrants are just as quick to pull up the ladder as anyone else.
this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2024
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Chicano really said "they not like us"
I remember hearing these dumbasses 8 years ago bitching that they’re not hurting the right people.
Everyone likes to think they’re part of the “in” group but when you point your finger remember that three more point back at you.
That's why I always point with my whole hand
Hurting the right people is such a hateful phrase... like, you want to hurt EVERYONE, but you have to be reigned in by bigoted masters...
I grew up and lived most of my life until recently in the DFW metroplex. From Fort Worth to Dallas, I've lived there and worked there, often not at the same time (commutes always suck there) but my experience with making Hispanic friends is that when I went to a Mexican restaurant in Gardiner, Montana , that me and my other Texan friends waited for months to open, and I ordered Mole.
I've had mole. I've had mi amigo's abuela's mole straight from her cocina. What I was served was a plate of brown shit - somehow flavorless, and offensive to all tastes at the same time.
I don't ask for refunds, buyer beware and all. We got fully refunded, and shit ALL over their restaurant to everyone we talked to, and I was at the front desk of a hotel in Yellowstone, 5 miles from their doorstep.
Bowling for Soup was right, the Mexican food sucks north of there anyway.
Isn't it nice that we can all come together as Americans, regardless of race, religion, or cultural background, and be fucking stupid in the exact same way?
Warms the heart.
It's the hatred that brings us together!
And brings tears to my eyes.
Vinegar supposedly helps with teargas.
Ah thanks, let me just add that to my ~~riot~~ parade kit
pulling up the ladder only works for white billionaires Amigo
"Latinos for Trump"? Sounds like "Chickens for KFC"
You have to understand that people vote values more than they vote personal interest.
If a person have conservative values: religion, traditional family, anti-LGBT, sexism. They will vote that even if it is against their personal interest.
Progressive parties need to understand that. Specially when it come from immigrants of countries with vastly different societies (often more conservative that US/Europe society) that they will be highly likely to vote in consonance with those conservative values even of it comes at a great personal cost.
It never surprised me those figures. In my country we have a lot of Latin American immigration (Spain).And, of course, every person is unique. But, on average, they tend to have much more conservative values and vote for the conservative parties more even if these parties are against their economic and social interest. Always talking on average. Of course there are progressive people that come from Latin America. I'm just talking of averages.
And this phenomenon is not unique from Latin America people. It happens to everyone. If you, reader, where progressive and rich, what would you vote? For your progressive values or for your economic interest? You would probably vote for your values, won't you? Same is happening with poor white people raised in conservative environments. They vote for their values even if it makes them even poorer.
People vote for values.
Trumpy Latinos I heard from say they "develop thick skins" and that they "recognise the type of things he says about us as just words". It's true that despite decades of threats from the right, established undocumented immigrants have never yet been universally rounded up and deported so we'll see if they're right. Not a gamble I would have taken, but I didn't see any good side to Trump's platform.
Self delusions and buying into white supremacist rhetoric that they're "one of the good ones." Brainwashing for conservatives almost invariably begins in a church, as a child.
When I first moved out on my own, I had a room mate from Beirut, Lebanon, here on a refugee Visa. Took him YEARS to get his citizenship.
He came home from work one day super frustrated.
"Do you know any Spanish?"
"No, but what do you want to say? Maybe we can figure it out?"
(this was DECADES before Google Translate or DuoLingo)
"I want to say 'Get off your lazy ass and get back to work!'"
"Well, I don't care WHAT the State Department says, you are now officially an American! Congratulations! Let me get you a flag!"
Latinos for Trump is one of those things I’ll acknowledge but never understand.
Why? It's exactly as dumb as any republican voting for him. They all shoot themselves in the foot, even the rich ones, because they already have all the happiness money can buy them, and they're making the world they still have to live in shittier for themselves.
Everybody who votes that way is fucking themselves over.
Wait 'till you hear about our Nazis in Mexico. I saw one in person wearing a bright red shirt with a Swatztika and a shit-eating grin. The dude had prominent Indigenous features with a very dark skin tone...
Did not have the fusion of Mayan and Nazi empires on my Bingo card.
The ruling class want us to fight each other and not them.
Well they're doing a good job because I do not fuck with my fellow Americans.
I wonder if this is why fox news et all were flagrantly lying about roving immigrant gangs occupying towns (that never existed)
That happens in a lot of immigrants home countries, so immigrants voting to stop it from coming to America makes sense - its why they uprooted their lives and migrated to America in the first place.
I'm just as disappointed as anyone else in the outcome/demographic split etc - but it's almost hard to blame people when every "legitimate" news source can pitch a coordinated fantasy and make it real.
You're supposed to be able to trust news sources - but when multiple news sources coordinate to make up stories and narratives that aren't true, and there's zero consequences for lying or promoting disinformation, people will never be able to make an informed opinion again.
Just like the lack of consequences for Trump let people believe he's the target of a witch hunt. People want to believe the accountability applied to them is also applied to major institutions like news, police, and government, but can't seem to understand it only exists for the poor.
I wonder if this is why fox news et all were flagrantly lying about roving immigrant gangs occupying towns (that never existed)
That happens in a lot of immigrants home countries, so immigrants voting to stop it from coming to America makes sense - it’s why they uprooted their lives and migrated to America in the first place.
😳
Utterly devious. Not all ladder pullers, instead some are well-meaning murcans.
I totally believe it. (like, there have got to be a percentage of people who think that way. No idea on how many of course.)
It's always the ones with the accents or the nopal
The nopal is the prickly pear cactus native to Mexico. We say someone has a "nopal" on their forehead if you can identify them as Mexicans at a glance. 😅
I work with several Indian people, and sadly this sentiment is very common.
Many of them transferred from India to the US, and some were lucky enough for their employer to sponsor a green card before the tariffs became insane for people from India.
Many of them, including those that cannot vote and those that don't have green cards, love Trump. They actively want to ensure that people from other countries have no route to the US, despite many of them flipping entirely when something happens that jeopardises their ability to stay. Lately, several were celebrating a Trump win because it meant that the stock prices on their RSU's would rise. If it means layoffs, they'll criticise Trump or the Dems for their current leadership.
It's basically the same as what happens here in the UK. People will either vote for what immediately benefits them only, or they'll vote for immediate damage for what may be long-term benefits for their beliefs. Very few view the big picture, and many that are directly affected consider themselves to be outliers - the genius that got through.
Trump's wife be like
People are more than their race or nationality. No one is immune to the I got mine mentally
The democrats' message this cycle was literally, "Trump doesn't actually want to do anything about immigration, he just wants to campaign on it. We're the ones who are actually going to build the wall, he's all talk," and now they're all suprisied that they lost a bunch of Latino votes. Who could've predicted this?
Assuming this is real, it makes sense. It's a risky gamble, because if Trump actually does what he says he'll do, they're cooked
I think we also assume most Mexicans care about the wall when that isn't a factor for the vast majority. Most come and get their court dates and are capable of passing the boarder legally.