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If anyone blames the left for not voting remember two things:
They are acknowledging that you matter and that they needed the left to win.
They are acknowledging that stopping the genocide would have resulted in them winning.
Throw it in their faces. It is their fault for not changing policy. The millions of people who did not vote would have done so if you gave them something to vote for. You must EARN the votes and if you actively choose not to that's on you.
"So you're saying that all Harris had to do to win is denounce genocide?"
They've allowed themselves to care about it now that their team has the cover of not being in charge. Please ignore the last year of Biden and the decades of pro-zionism in the Democratic party.
They’ve doomed them, I’m not joking. The Trump admin is going to go full bore and let Netanyahu do whatever he wants. The ones in Gaza will get pushed over the border to Egypt and the West Bank will get annexed. The leftist who sat out this election have ensured it will go from a brutal war to an actual genocide.
What the fuck is the difference between Trump allowing them to do whatever they want and Biden allowing them to do whatever they want and Harris saying she'd also allow them to do whatever they want???
The difference is that Sven K Boner has to pretend to care when Trump is doing the genocide, it must be so hard for him :(
It's gonna be really awkward when isreal finishes wiping out Gaza before the inauguration and by the time trumps president there isn't a genocide anymore because they finished it thanks to dems unwavering support.
Also if they're all suddenly sonconcermed about it maybe the current president should stop arms shipments since that's something he could do and has 3 months with absolutely zero excuses to not so it.
The most frustrating part of this sentiment is that it frankly gives us too much fucking credit. I genuinely wish we could take credit for this result...but there's a bit of a problem with trying to scapegoat lefties this time around. Hilary wasn't owed green votes in 2016 either but it was at least true that if she had gotten them the election was close enough she could have clinched it. Michigan was basically the one state in 2024 where the spoiler effect really could have been enough of a factor to deny Harris a win but it turned out they didn't even fucking matter in the end.
2024 is a clear decisive Trump victory. There's no way around it. They're in just in full on denial and finger pointing trying to say the radical left cost them this one.
I've been saying this to my friends. I was actually glad that she lost so thoroughly because it makes it easy to make this point.
there where also people who did not bother to show up for the same reason
Sure, that's not a non factor...but I think you'd be hard pressed to quantify that in any sort of objective/concrete way.
At that point you're basically saying "If more people had shown up and voted for Kamala, she would have won". Like...no shit. Cool story bro. The fact is: they didn't show up and you can't really definitively say why. I actually wish I could say it was because of Gaza but I think that's extremely wishful thinking. The reality is there were probably a whole host of reasons people didn't turn out.
You are not wrong, however I think it is a bad decision to say that they would have lost even without us, or that they did not have a chance of winning if they did not support genocide. I think that it is an important naritive that our witholding of votes prevented her win, especialy if we once agan squander this chance to organize effectivly
My response would be, that's a cynical tactic you could opt for but I don't think it's a winning message both because:
A) while you can spin it that way: I don't think the data we have really bears that out and I think it's easy to call out as spin.
B) this cycle has left me especially cynical about converting the democratic party. Even though the spoiler effect wound up not mattering in the grand scheme, the Democrats definitely were nervous about it and they still opted for this direction. Given the choice between losing and shifting left, it seems to me like they will choose losing.
Reminder - Democrats are in the White House. They could still end the genocide right now!
Liberals are all fascists. Spiteful, smug, condescending fascists.
On a semi-serious note, can the US even fuck Palestine more than it has? Libs have constantly gone about how Trump will be even worse but like
weapons have been shipped under dems
Gaza is as good as completely obliterated
settlers are pushing into the West Bank
official number of the death toll hasn't changed in months because there is nobody to update it, which is already a sign in of itself, but we're probably at a few hundred thousand now
what can Trump even do to top it? It's like stabbing a corpse, you can't fuck the situation up more than the murderer already did