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Destiny's community now suddenly cares DEEPLY about the situation in Gaza.

I hope leftists realize what they’ve done to the Palestinians.

They’ve doomed them, I’m not joking. The Trump admin is going to go full bore and let Netanyahu do whatever he wants. The ones in Gaza will get pushed over the border to Egypt and the West Bank will get annexed. The leftist who sat out this election have ensured it will go from a brutal war to an actual genocide.

When you see reports of horrific things going on in the U.S. and abroad. Just know, this was the future American leftists chose. To watch the world burn rather than settle for incremental progress. As they’re a bunch of privileged champagne socialists who aren’t going to be the ones burning.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure, that's not a non factor...but I think you'd be hard pressed to quantify that in any sort of objective/concrete way.

At that point you're basically saying "If more people had shown up and voted for Kamala, she would have won". Like...no shit. Cool story bro. The fact is: they didn't show up and you can't really definitively say why. I actually wish I could say it was because of Gaza but I think that's extremely wishful thinking. The reality is there were probably a whole host of reasons people didn't turn out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are not wrong, however I think it is a bad decision to say that they would have lost even without us, or that they did not have a chance of winning if they did not support genocide. I think that it is an important naritive that our witholding of votes prevented her win, especialy if we once agan squander this chance to organize effectivly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

My response would be, that's a cynical tactic you could opt for but I don't think it's a winning message both because:

A) while you can spin it that way: I don't think the data we have really bears that out and I think it's easy to call out as spin.

B) this cycle has left me especially cynical about converting the democratic party. Even though the spoiler effect wound up not mattering in the grand scheme, the Democrats definitely were nervous about it and they still opted for this direction. Given the choice between losing and shifting left, it seems to me like they will choose losing.