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I was explaining this to my daughter in quite simplified terms the other day- we evolved to taste sugar and enjoy it because finding a sweet edible plant meant we had a source of energy to help us hunt that day. Pretty useful if you're a hunter-gatherer.

So we seek out sugar. Now we can get it whenever we want it, in much more massive quantities than we are supposed to be processing. Most of us are addicted. I'm not an exception.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Oh yeah - I've had to start watching my carbohydrate intake for health reasons and it's amazing just how much of that stuff is in processed food: for example "American Style Onion Rings (frozen)" from Lidl is over 40% carbohydrates - so basically the 450g pack of it has 180g of sugars and the kind of stuff your digestive system will turn into sugars.

One would think it would be only starchy foods (like bread, pasta, rice and such) and cakes and sweets that have lots of it, but no, most processed food is loaded with carbohydrates, often already directly as sugars, probably because the cheapest ingredient to bulk it up is flour.

Mind you, lots of natural or lightly processed foods have quite a bit of it - for example natural yoghurt with nothing added has maybe 6% of carbohydrates (tough yoghurt with fruit is way worse, since the adding of fruit is generally mixing it with fruit jam which has a lot of sugar) and most fruits have quite a bit of sugar (for example, common varieties of apple have about 14% of sugar - so your run of the mill apple comes with 1 spoonful of sugar included - and some varieties have a lot more) which is why there's this funny paradox that natural fruit juice has a lot more sugar in it than the same amount of Coca-Cola (since when you make the fruit juice you throw away the fiber and most of the protein leaving a much higher percentage of sugar than originally).

Generally, the kind of stuff that has almost no carbohydrates are veggies, like lettuce or broccoli.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Meat and cheese has no sugar/very low sugar too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but they have a lot of calories via fat (especially cheese) and what I've seen in my own diet (which includes regular checking of blood sugar levels), if I eat more of it (again, especially cheese) the sugar levels in the blood go up all else being the same.

Don't ask me the exact details of how the human body does that, I'm not a specialist and this is just what I observe happens if start eating more cheese.

Which is a shame, 'cause I love cheese :(

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah the metabolism is crazy, crazily complicated too, we have mapped it out (badly) at around 15%...

The liver can make sugar (glycose) and there are a lot of 'magic' going on everywhere, but for me cutting out sugar and only eating veggies, meat and cheese was a great diet, have forgotten aboug it maybe I should check it out again...

What a shame for the cheese! Does it do that for all kind of cheese, like goat, sheep, roquefort, hard cheese (there are so many)?

Also, did you eat something specific around the same time you ate cheese?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I would get two of the local small (about 50g each) cured cheeses made out of goat and sheep milk a week and eat them, and was having trouble cutting down on blood sugar until I stopped doing it and that one change with all else being roughly the same consistently reduced the blood sugar level increases - since I have Type II Diabetes - between my "running days" (I run 10km twice a week, which by itself has a huge positive impact on it).

Around here there's also what we call "fresh cheese" (basically cheese that hasn't been cured) and I usually get a couple of those made of goat cheese and they don't seem to be a problem.

Of course, this is all a bit so-so and anecdotcal since its pretty hard to control all other variables plus blood sugar seems to also be affected what you consumed days before (I've seen blood sugar go up long after the last meal and during a fasting period - so supposedly not because of sugar intake or digestion - which I suspect is due to the sugar stored in the liver or maybe yet another unexpected methabolic pathway).

In my experience of trying to control blood sugar levels with food and exercise, it is exactly as you said: metabolism is crazy, crazy complicated :/

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Always spend the extra buck or two for the better sauces. Actually I've started making a mean meat sauce as I found a fantastic place to get red bell peppers (for a dollar more but huge difference); their sweetmess easily offsets the acidity of the tomatoes (although better sauces use better tomatoes or cook longer). Also don't overcook your garlic, it's sweetest when it's less cooked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

This is good advice. And also carrots.

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