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[–] [email protected] 2 points 50 minutes ago

Is this even a real tweet? If it is, why even bother trying to recreate it in paint?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

I genuinely don't understand how uranium can exist a priori in this argument but lead not? I might be missing something.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, it’s not at all a compelling argument.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't it more about being able the view the whole life cycle of lead, which takes more than 4000 years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

"God put all of that there, and then made it work to ensure we had quality lead gasoline, pipes and paint to poison our brains with cause freedom."

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

the answer completely disregards the fact that people who even remotely understand how these things work wouldn't believe stupid shit in the first place. there are so many ways for this guy to just dismiss this.

how would you even know, you can't have studied these for billions of years

who says lead only can exist in this manner

what if this is true but god also made lead along with the earth

etc etc... this is very weak if the goal is really try to convince this guy to look into some things rather than smell your own farts.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

My farts are delicious thank you very much.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Can someone explain to me why lead HAS to come from another element? Why cant it just… exist?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago

Because it needs a...

... leader

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

God made lead right after creating life

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Actually He started with lead. All life comes from lead. Praise the lead. It's not lead poisoning, it's lead salvation! Also Led Zeppelin is Christian rock and spreading the gospel.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

All young Earth creationist should be exiled to a remote desert island to die

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago) (1 children)

Two islands, divide them by sex. If you don't, they will eventually overpopulate and start colonizing places like they've been in the last 1000 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

Too risky. What if u misgender one accidentially? Put each on a separate island. Or into a sealed barrel and just into the ocean.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I was a YEC before going to university. I studied geology. After two years, I accepted that evolution happened. After four years, I was an atheist. I went on to get a doctorate, and I have published quite a few papers about rocks that are >2 billion years old.

As a kid, there were literally 0 authority figures in my life that accepted that evolution happened. It was taken as a given that it was ridiculous. My biology teacher skipped the chapter on evolution, saying, “this is controversial.”

Patience, love, and making critical information available gives kids like I was a chance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 49 minutes ago

My biology teacher skipped the chapter on evolution, saying, “this is controversial.”

How was that legal?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

That is quite a journey! I hope that it wasn't too fraught (learning shouldn't have to be). Well done on making good of it!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

Should we start building a big wooden boat for them?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

There's just no way that they could ever be anything but a drain to society

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 hours ago

Engagement bait.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (4 children)

this argument isn't going to work on someone who believes god created said lead... and also, pretty sure not all lead was created from nuclear decay.

i get dunk on people feels satisfying, but this is just bad science communication through and through

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

There are exactly 1.6 x 10^18 kilograms of lead on earth but every three minutes or so a brand new gram is welcomed into existence due to the radioactive decay of uranium.

Calculate that flat earthers!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

Also, the half life is when half of it decays. Some of it is constantly decaying. We don't need to wait for the half life to see any of it. The ratios would be totally off if there was enough of it to get the amount of lead we have right now, but some would exist. When the math is that complex, it's not going to change anyone's mind who believes what a magic book (written by regular humans) says. Nothing will, be if you want a chance it has to be something simple and obvious.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I had a conversation with a woman who strongly believed God put the dinosaur bones there to test our faith.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

what an idiot, clearly god put the bones in the ground because dinosaurs were his favourite creation and he wanted us to know about them. Had he not put them there we'd have no idea, and he'd be very sad.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Some lead might have been created from supernova fusion, probably. I'm not actually sure if it's the right isotope or if lead even has radioactive isotopes that we know of

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago

Anything can be radioactive if you add enough neutrons

[–] [email protected] 62 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

unfortunately i don’t believe in uranium or numbers higher than 200, so this argument doesn’t work on me

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (16 children)

Technically this could all be true even if the universe were created 4000 years ago. As somebody says in Robert Heinlein's novel Job: A Comedy of Justice, "Yes, the universe is billions of years old, but it was created 4000 years ago. It was created old." (approximate quote from memory)

I absolutely agree with science, but strictly speaking we can't know for sure the universe isn't the creation of some superbeing operating outside of it - or it could even be a simulation.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

We can't prove that the world we live in wasn't created last Thursday, with our memories, the growth rings in trees, and so on created by a (near) omnipotent trickster to deceive us. But science and rationality give us tools for determining what's worth taking seriously, and sorting out the reasonable, but unconfirmed, claims from the unverifiable hogwash.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 minutes ago

And yet simulation theory has a very reasonable merit.

And if it were to turn out true, you'd also have to admit that OOPs argument was hogwash. Actually, it is either way.

If you can't logic better than religious people, then you're the problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Pffff. Look at this conspiracy bullshit.

Everyone knows that the universe will actually be created tomorrow. What you are experiencing now is a flashback from tomorrow of what you did yesterday. Prove me wrong.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You believe in existence? Please.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I don't yet, but tomorrow is the day for sure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

You've been saying that for a 1000 years.

You're in a loop. Reality is never going to exist.

See you tomorrow for the same discussion.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

What a tricky god to even implant memories of me imagining all of creation happening only a few seconds ago every time I read about this particular anecdote in the false past.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Actually the universe was created on Jan 1st 1970. That's why computers sometimes have errors with pre-1970 dates, it's the universal simulation glitching due to the high clock rate of computers compared to the universe's. Anyone who claims to have been born before 1970/01/01 is a simulation that's lying to you, and anyone born after is real, hence why now that its more player characters than NPCs things are going off the rails politically and socially!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Also, did you ever get a sense of dejavu?
QED.

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