Speedy trial, as in: "I try to dump my shit first, and if I dump enough shit on Trump I may get out with a slap on the fingers instead of a stay behind bars. Better than waiting and getting shit dumped on by the others."
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I suspect her motives may simply be that she wants this done quickly, and to not be waiting for another 2 years to suit Donald Trump's election bid.
Whatever we may think about the alleged crimes, they're all innocent until proven guilty and this will be highly disruptive for their lives. I can empathise with the desire to get this done rather than allow the trial to be postponed because one person wants to.
they’re all innocent until proven guilty
While indeed they are, they were not booked for that trial because they were picked at random out of the general populace...
She always looks like she's been hit in the face with a pan by a cartoon mouse, and her face hasn't yet gone back to the shape it should be. But yes, by all means finish her trial, and then throw her in prison. I've been waiting long enough to see these creeps go to jail; I'm just as eager for a speedy trial as they are.
lol, does she now?
The significance is that if they ask for a speedy trial in Fulton County, the court is obligated to give it to them within the current 2 month court cycle or the next, and if they can't go to trial in that time, the case is dropped and they go free.
Nobody really wants to go to trial that fast, not only because it's hard to prepare the case that quickly, but it also limits the amount of pre-trial motions they can do.
It seems likely they were hoping Fani Willis couldn't go to trial that fast and they could just walk free, but Willis was like "I'm cool with that. I can do this shit tomorrow if you want" and now they'll get their speedy trial, which means their defense will be rushed and a little hamstrung.
These people aren't smart.
I wonder if it’s a ploy to pressure trump. A few have indicated they expected their legal bills to be paid. If their trial can proceed quickly, there is less valid reason to delay his trial. If he offered to pay their legal costs, it might all slow down as they waive their speedy trial.
Also, if they are found guilty and the case is similar to trump, or the details are damaging to him, it also damages his election chances. So, they may not be as stupid as they seem. However, if the speedy trial is asked for, perhaps it won’t be taken away if they can argue justice is better served to continue with the speedy trial. I doubt it would though. Usually fair is the most important.
Thanks for the explanation. Also helps clarify why it's taken so long for trials to begin - if every defendant can demand "trial within a few months or it's free", of course you'd spend years gathering evidence and perfecting your case beforehand, if you felt you could.
In this case it is a bluff. She wants her trial as soon as possible on the assertion that the DA and prosecution are not fully prepared for trial... But I think it will bite her square in the ass because there is no way that they are handing out subpoenas with so much at stake on a whim without having ~~dune~~ done their due diligence.
Remember when this dipshit was the kraken? She's probably all like "these assholes don't have a case at all, I tried doing a law once and it's impossible!!!"
To your edit, it’s hard to campaign from jail. Also the warden (or whoever) could decide he doesn’t get internet access or significant phone time, so, that’d be a problem too
Hope she hangs and I hope it isn't speedy
That was a nice little dance...
The Fani Willis reaction to Cheseboro doing this ("Speedy trial? Sure, how about October?") speaks loudly to the strength of her case.
With racketeering, you have to prove that there was an overarching criminal conspiracy, and then you prove that the defendant(s) was/were a part of it in the ways that you've charged them to be. So all the defendants (regarding the same conspiracy) will have a lot of identical/shared evidence being used against them at trial.
So tactically, if one or two of the group go first, the rest get to see a preview of most of the body of evidence that will be used against them. If there's any weakness in the presented case, they can craft their defense around it.
And here, Fani Willis pretty much said, "That's fine."
They must have every step of this proven beyond any doubt whatsoever. Based on her reaction to these speedy trial motions, if I were one of those people charged in this conspiracy, I'd be very, very worried.
So tactically, if one or two of the group go first, the rest get to see a preview of most of the body of evidence that will be used against them. If there's any weakness in the presented case, they can craft their defense around it.
The defendant has a constitutional right to have access to all evidence that will or could be used against them, as well as any exculpatory evidence the prosecutor might have.
So if there's a tactic, it's not to be able to see the evidence to improve their legal defense, it's to be able to spin the evidence to the public in the coming months to try to get Trump elected or rile the mob enough for people to try another J6.
It’s a tactic they use to see what the prosecutor will do and how they present the case.
I, for one, appreciate this wax-faced lady stepping forward to provide content during the WGA/SGA strikes!
My guess for this and cheesebro’s request is so that they don’t become bankrupt over the legal process. tangerine turd can afford to drag out the process indefinitely by soliciting donations from freedumb patriots but not these stooges. Ghouliani is what happens to them all eventually, and I’m giddy with anticipation.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Sidney Powell, a former Trump attorney charged alongside the former president in the Georgia election interference case, has filed a motion for a speedy trial.
Powell’s request makes her the second of the 19 charged in the case to do so.
Kenneth Chesebro, the attorney who drafted the fake electors memo, likewise pushed for a speedy trial, and is now facing an Oct. 23 trial date.
While a Georgia judge agreed to Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis’s suggested date, he set the October timeline for Chesebro only, despite a suggestion from the prosecutor that she was ready to try all 19 defendants.
Former President Trump opposed Chesebro’s motion, indicating a desire to sever his case from Chesebro if the trial timetable were advanced.
Powell is facing charges on six counts, including conspiracy to commit election fraud, as well as charges related to a voting system breach in Coffee County, Ga.
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What a gaggle of morons.
She's hoping to get in on the rush of precedent
No way the strategy here is that Powell and Chesebro are RNC-planted operatives intended to sabotage a defence before primaries. Nope. No way at all.
Don't even @ me.
Lock Her Up :)
...because who needs a slow burn legal drama when you can have an express trial that's over before you can say 'objection'?
Well, there's already a trial scheduled for 10/23... what's one more defendant between friends?