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During his first term as president, Donald Trump tested the limits of how he could use the military to achieve policy goals. If given a second term, the Republican and his allies are preparing to go much further, reimagining the military as an all-powerful tool to deploy on U.S. soil.

He has pledged to recall thousands of American troops from overseas and station them at the U.S. border with Mexico. He has explored using troops for domestic policy priorities such as deportations and confronting civil unrest. He has talked of weeding out military officers who are ideologically opposed to him.

“They are promising to use the military to do mass raids of American families at a scale that harkens back to some of the worst things our country has done,” said Todd Schulte, president of FWD.us, an immigration advocacy organization.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We’re making history today. A tremendous history, okay? No one’s seen anything like it. We’re standing here at the Rubicon, a little river, not a big one, but it’s about to become a big deal. A huge deal. Why? Because once we cross it, we’re going to make Rome great again. Believe me, it's going to be tremendous.

The Senate? You know them. They’re corrupt, they’re weak, and quite frankly, they’re failing. Same with Lyin' Praetor Harris. Everyone knows it. The people know it, the soldiers know it. They sit there, with their fancy togas, eating grapes, while the rest of us, the real Romans, are out here fighting the real battles. It’s disgraceful. But that’s going to change, and it’s going to change big league.

Now, they’ll say I’m breaking the rules. ‘Oh, Consul Trump can’t cross the Rubicon. That’s against the law!’ Well, guess what? The rules are rigged! They’re rigged against us, the people, the soldiers who built this empire. And let me tell you, I’ve dealt with rules before. I know how to win. We’re going to cross this river and we’re going to win so much, you’re going to get tired of winning.

The Senate? They’re scared. They’re afraid of what I’ll do. They’re afraid I’ll drain the Tiber of all their corruption, all their bad deals. And you know what? They should be scared. Because when we get to Rome, it’s going to be different. Very different. The Republic? A mess. But I'm going to fix it. These so-called leaders, they say I’m a dictator, they say I’m doing something unprecedented. Well, was it unprecedented when Marius took over? When Sulla marched on Rome? No. And you know what? They weren’t half as successful as me. They weren’t even close. We’ve got the best legions, the best generals, the best people. No one builds legions like we do. It’s a fact.

So here’s what we’re going to do. We’re going to cross that Rubicon, and once we’re in Rome, we’re going to give the power back to the people. Back to you. Not the crooked politicians, not the elites. We’re going to rebuild the temples, strengthen the economy, protect the borders—you know the barbarians, they’re pouring across. It’s a mess. But we’ll fix it. We’re going to build a great wall across the Rhine. And who’s going to pay for it? The Gauls. Believe me.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

This is way too coherent

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Which way will military go in the event of violence?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The people in interracial marriages and people with gay/trans kids will definitely fight back. I feel when you’re fighting for someone concrete it’d be a lot different than fighting for ideals. I don’t think many conservatives are ready to die for the right of the wealthy to subjugate us.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I doubt that. They are all voting for the face eating leopard, thinking it won't eat their face.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

When things get real they duck and run. 1/6 is a perfect example

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Technically, they should refuse illegal or treasonous orders at any point in the chain of command. The military is not a monolith, so I imagine a mixed bag.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

It's not the military I'm worried about, it's local police. He'll use executive orders to make certain people terrorists or some shit and the cops will have a field day rounding everyone up.