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A supposed charity festival for PTSD sufferers books him? ok

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

For those who don’t remember, Rittenhouse is a divisive figure who is held up as a hero in right-wing circles after a 2020 incident where he drove to Kenosha, WI to protect local businesses

Disgusting article.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 weeks ago

This is like saying OJ Simpson was a famous NFL player who had minor legal issues with an ex-wife

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Divisive figure is a funny way to say murderer

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

a-guy was a divise figure mainly remembered for his contributions to the field of mathematics and minor legal issues with the US government

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

He's controversial for his efforts to protect the environment and hold the government accountable

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

In bad country, man who murders multple people is framed not as murderer but divisive figure yeonmi-park

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 weeks ago

all he did was protect local business!!! all hitler did was try to make germany better!!!

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 weeks ago

to protect local businesses

I'm in awe of this neoliberal bootlickery framing. LIB

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago

where he drove to Kenosha, WI

Inaccurate. His mommy drove him.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, the article itself sucks ass, I probably should've linked a better one, I just grabbed this quickly.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

https://www.metalsucks.net/2024/09/30/evergreen-terrace-pull-out-of-shell-shock-festival-over-kyle-rittenhouses-involvement/

they ended up on the same bill as alt-right broke-ass poster boy and murderer Kyle Rittenhouse.

https://www.metalsucks.net/2024/10/01/southpaw-flhc-follows-evergreen-terraces-example-and-drops-off-shell-shock-festival/

I have to admit, it’s a bit odd to hear a hardcore band saying that they simply don’t get involved in politics, especially one that says that they’re dedicated to “the culture of hardcore.” Hardcore comes from punk, punk is far-left, end of discussion. But even putting that aside, at least it’s good to hear that someone acknowledges that being opposed to the right-wing canonization of Kyle Rittenhouse isn’t politics, it’s just morality.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No one get mad at me.

But politics is morality and morality is politics. This is still doing that thing where it treats politics as some team sport lower on a hierarchy of needs below morality.

Edit - also super weird when Metal Injection is way more Rittenhouse/right-leaning than Metalsucks in this instance when I thought they were owned/run by the same company/group/person.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

both-sides

(note: I know nothing about the ownership and proprietorship of either of these websites)

Also politics and morality are objectively two distinct things but they heavily dialectically interact and inform. Morality is an idealism, politics is a materialism, in the dialectical relationship that exists in the interdependent unity-of-opposites of ideas and substance (in its theory and action). Morality can also be personal as much as it can be societal and communal. It's an idealism, it's subjective. Politics is the objective relationships of power between people. One's morality might inform how they engage with politics, and how political circumstances affect them, hence the dialectical relationship; but it remains its own subjectivity in relation to material politics. This isn't to say morality isn't important for an individual to cultivate, Lenin wrote (or Krupskaya relayed) his thoughts on Communist Morality. Because it is an impulse and framework within peoples ideals which can inform or impel them to take part in great (or terrible) things. But they are distinct, morality and politics.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Fr. Hardcore is just metal without the racism. And better pits.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

I was just at Fall of Troy and Number 12 Looks Like You concert the other day and they had the palestine flag up front

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Getting punched in the head is better? Hate racism but hardcore pits are terrible

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

When you put it that way...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sore Throat said it and were right, death to capitalist hardcore. Hardcore is pretty far removed from punk at this point and is rige with chuds or just people who would have been nu metal guys if it was late 90s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

there is a big schism forming in hardcore right now. luckily there are far fewer right leaning/chud shit bands but there are a gross number of "apolitical" outfits. most of the "revivalcore" bands that are bringing back the sound of the late 90s/early 00s are staunchly leftist (led by Knocked Loose).

only one "revivalcore" band stands out as right wing and that's Kubali Khan TX. sucks too because i used to like them because they had some good anti-cop songs. turns out they are just lolbertarians but their frontman is friends with a fucking nazi so not a good look. so fuck em

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

it’s a bit odd to hear a hardcore band saying that they simply don’t get involved in politics, especially one that says that they’re dedicated to “the culture of hardcore.”

It's not that odd to me, just looking at that picture you can tell they're the ”MY CREW 4 LIFE WE KICK UR ASS” type of hardcore who aren't exactly known for their enlightened political opinions.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Supporters of Rittenhouse like to point to the backgrounds of the men that Rittenhouse killed, particularly the sex crimes that Joseph Rosenbaum was convicted of in 2002, while his detractors argue that Rittenhouse was unlikely to know anything about that when he killed those men.

I'm sure the author would argue unsuccessfully that including this bit was totally necessary to inform the reader, but I would argue that including it totally informed me as to which way the author slants on Rittenhouse.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago

so-true Presenting all viewpoints is objective reporting!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Knowing his opinions would certainly change my behaviour were I to meet the author and [REDACTED]

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

were I to meet the author and ~~[REDACTED]~~ [RITTENHOUSE]

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Throwing a grenade into a crowd of random people is likely to put shrapnel in at least one criminal. smuglord

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago

many US troops have PTSD from doing murders

Kyle has PTSD from doing murders

We're doing a festival in support of murderers!

buddy-christ

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

fuck around and find out, fuck around and find out, fuck around and find out, FUCK AROUND AND FIND OUT

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why is a music festival bringing him on at all? Does he have a band I’ve never heard of? Guns are not a musical instrument

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Florida

Christian band

Pro-Troop

It's a little puzzling, but it's clear the people behind this thing have am Agenda™️

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

SMDH when did music become political? Keep politics out of my songs!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Songs should only be about kickin' ass for the US of A and drinking piña coladas

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

i mean i've seen comedians and podcasts on festival lineups before. hell, jeremy corbyn was on the glastonbury lineup one year

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Evergreen Terrace, American Hollow, Southpaw, and Let Me Bleed dropped out.

So now the highest billed band on the lineup is the Christian metalcore band "What We Seek".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

so glad Evergreen Terrace rolled out. love that fucking band.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

one of the funniest videos i've ever seen is when kyle rittenhouse is gonna speak at a TPUSA event and they bring him out on stage with a kyle rittenhouse theme song that starts with airhorns and then has a beat that's doing the scratches going "wicka wicka wicka kyle rittenhouse"

https://youtu.be/If1-0TcWVD4?t=15

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is beyond parody. They had confetti cannons and a big screen and did a Kyle chant 😭

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

i'm actually pretty sure those aren't real confetti cannons but are a screen overlay

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

ooops you just lost your headlining band

Evergreen Terrace stays winning cat-vibing

also check them out if you like a fusion of skate punk and thrash metal

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Organizations and projects intended to support people with PTSD or disabilities are often really about supporting kid killing veterans that feel bad about seeing their kid killing friends die and being afraid they might die so they wouldn't be able to kill more kids.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Booked him to do what? Be fat and stupid? They could've booked me for that!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I sincerely hope he has an accident while cleaning his gun and he blows his face off and has to live in a Johnny Get Your Gun mind prison for the rest of his shitheaded life. Stupid evil little gremlin boy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

I mixed up Kyle Rittenhouse and Kyle Gass and was confused for a moment