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[–] [email protected] 4 points 25 minutes ago

He’s a fucking tool; I don’t expect she’ll care much. Also: what an absolutely fucking idiotic hill for him to die on.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 hours ago

Oh wow, the republican infiltrator isnt supporting the democrats.

I'm sooooooooo surprised.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Who cares about this dinosaur, like anyone is surprised?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

He's going to try and run for governor in West Virginia, then run for President in 2028, without a doubt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Then shouldn't he back Harris so that there are still elections in 2028?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Forced Birther coal baron Joe Manchin is upset at Harris for threatening his cash cow fillibuster. News at 11

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Does this make Manchin a Tankie?

[–] [email protected] 187 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That is an endorsement in of itself.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not even. He officially left the Dems and registered as independent earlier this year.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Then re-registered as a Dem when Biden was about to drop out. Then re-re-registered as an Indie when he realized he wasn't going to get handed to nomination over Harris.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I for one am very happy to rid the party of these scumbags: Manchin, Gabbard, Sinema.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Depressingly, also Fetterman.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Fetterman is bad on Israel-Palestine but I thought he was otherwise ok re: democracy, women's rights, etc? Am I wrong? He's not my rep so I'm actually asking.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

He always struck me as a guy who is who he is. He would fail any ideology test because he goes by his gut rather than any ideological compass. I think he felt his supporters were being a bit mercurial for opposing him so vehemently on Israel. Not really an excuse, but I think he just lost his shit and lost his way. So probably a decent guy but he has to do a lot of work to repair that bridge and I have no idea if he's up to it.

But I could be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Gabbard and Sinema are people that can be replaced with other democrats, but let’s not fool ourselves into thinking a more progressive person would likely get elected for Manchin’s West Virginia seat.

Manchin may suck, but he caucuses with the dems and puts the dems 2 seats over the majority line. Which means his existence currently allows the Chuck Schumer to replace Mitch McConnell, which means the dems control what comes to the floor in the senate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They just can't pass anything. But yeah, it is still better than what the other side would bring to the floor.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago

More like a Dixiecrat. Old school southern Democrat.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

Honestly, I’ll take it.

Dude could be a Home Depot Halloween skeleton for all I care. He caucuses with the Dems, which means that he helps push the Dems over 50% in the senate, which means the Dems control political appointments and what get brought to the floor.

I’ll take him over Mitch McConnell back in power.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

An independent now. Not even a DINO.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 17 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 29 points 20 hours ago

Can someone kick this guy in the nuts? I don't really care about this news, I just think that should happen to him, every day.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 day ago (9 children)

The fact that Biden called for this exact same thing and Manchin was ok endorsing him but has to make a big scene when a non-white woman calls for doing the same thing basically tells you everything you need to know about Manchin

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

This pearl clutching very much reads to me like he was looking for an excuse and this was the first one that turned up.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 22 hours ago

Republicans can endorse Harris all day long and I'm here for it.

Manchin endorsing Harris would have actually done her a disservice.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why not just make the filibuster what it used to be and require the people who want to wield it to hold the floor for hours upon hours with no break? Some of it was silly. Some of it heroic. Either way, it required someone to truly be willing to stand behind their beliefs and, thus, was used much less often.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago

I also liked the idea of a minority vote (2/5) to sustain a filibuster. If you don't have 40 supporters, on the floor, then the filibuster ends.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago

it required someone to truly be willing to stand behind their beliefs

Conservatives don't typically have these, and the ones that do know how unpopular they are. That's why they fight against any attempt to reign it in.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago

This seems like such a fair way to add some discomfort to filibustering and making it a bit less appealing.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

Oh no! Anyways…

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Manchin was not going to endorse her anyway.

It's 42 days to the election, people are voting, if he was going to endorse her it would have been at the convention.

[–] realcaseyrollins 6 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I'd seen the quote, but not the withholding of endorsement. Well, I guess he's going to join the 'both sides bad' crowd.

Still. What does his opinion matter? He's leaving the Senate next year so his proper alt-Right replacement can take over...

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago

"It’s the only thing that keeps us talking ~~and~~ instead of working together."

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Manchin LOL. What a piece of work.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@realcaseyrollins he's gunna endorse trump and could end up sec of energy

[–] realcaseyrollins 5 points 1 day ago

Oh boy...that would be something...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Manchin not endorsing IS an endorsement. Harris should run commercials.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fuck that guy... fuck him with a retractable baton

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At LEAST twice. Possibly 47 times.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Holy Grail? An item given no special meaning in the Bible, and was blown out of proportion in importance by fiction writers a thousand years later? I guess Manchin doesn't really think the filibuster is too important then.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

No special meaning and not in the Constitution.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Fuck Joe "This is the best we can hope for" Manchin.

And fuck the system that makes him the best we can hope for.

West Virginia used to be cool.

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