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Imagine Skynet, except destroying the planet to make more movies about Skynet faster and more conveniently with less paid workers. 
It'll be so fucking funny if the remaining Avatar movies are unintelligible AI slop that also bring this world a little closer to being a lifeless husk 
A dying Earth with unsustainable energy demands... just like in the Avatar treats! 
I ducking 
love epic 
science stuff 
Corridor digital made an AI avatar movie and it was better than most of what major studios put out.
well my days of not taking James Cameron seriously are certainly coming to a middle.
Isn't this the guy who did Terminator?
And Avatar (the blue tall people one)
"We need to burn down and bulldoze the land masses of Pandora because the treat printer to make more Avatar slop needs additional database expansion." 
Huh. I really liked the nature vibes of that one and the anti extractive colonialism message. Could have done without the white savior angle though.
Yeah but when they're talking about AI here they're really just talking about a guessing machine they're not actually talking about AI
True
But according to a lot of glazers for this shit, a guessing machine with enough electricity and enough waste carbon output suddenly becomes GAI.
Yeah, but then he got a lot richer and a lot more famous and he's chasing the bazinga dragon for relevance.
Isn't he supposed to be an infamous perfectionist with his work?
I guess he might be the 0.001% of AI users who can actually get something usable out of the tools because he's willing to hogtie and drag it through the streets until it does exactly what he wants but like
You have shitzillion dollar CGI industries at your beck and call who can actually make 3D assets the regular way lmao why would you bother browbeating the slop machine instead
Shames Cameron 
A lot of people here are missing the funniest thing about this: SAI is floundering, has lost most of its tech talent, and suffered hard to the double punch of SD3 sucking complete shit and Flux showing up like a month later and being everything people had expected SD3 to be but better. SAI has also been pivoting away from the open source release model that got them literally all of the attention they've gotten in the first place.
So it looks like James Cameron's role with this would be trying to use his reputation to grift more investor money to keep the company that now doesn't have the engineers responsible for all the popular Stable Diffusion models anymore afloat. I wonder if he knows he's hopping onto a failing grift or if they've successfully tricked him into thinking there's anything of value left in SAI?
Oh god you're right lol
SD3 was such a flop I actually completely forgot all that even happened
Yeah. They probably wined and dined him to try and get people to think their failing company still has some merit. This is a very common part of the tech grift, they find some celebrity to endorse them to get more money before they finally cut and run.
Oh boy even more slop and now the slop will derive itself from prior slop and crowd out almost everything else and burn the planet down faster than ever before, and if you don't like it you're an emotional Luddite! Bazinga!
FUCK US IT’S FOREVER
CGI 3 decades ago has nothing to do with what CGI is today lol. Its like comparing the fucking lumiere brother's cinematographe and a camera from the company RED.
It's like Chris Roberts claiming to be a cutting edge "code whisperer" to his credulous Star Citizen cultists when he hasn't actually coded a game since fucking 1994.
Chris Roberts found a way to have GenX rich nerds to pay for his vacations.
Chris Roberts found a way to have GenX rich nerds to pay for his vacations.
He even publicized a self-quote about how he'll work so hard and use that crowdfunded money so well that you'd never see him on a yacht.
moreover, cgi 3 decades ago had nothing to do with stealing people's art today and presenting it as your own as long as it goes through a computer rube goldberg machine
I can still see uses for LLMs as tools, however, they are being used on the largest economic scale right now by tools.
correct. i use AI art by feeding my work into it and fucking around with it.
Especially on a personal scale, I definitely see the value and the lack of harm if it's just regurgitating your own work to eliminate repetition.
I'm pretty sure he has already done like two "4k remasters" where he just took whatever the latest blu-ray was then upscaled and denoised/grained it with AI so it looks like dogshit.
I'm pretty sure he has already done like two "4k remasters" where he just took whatever the latest blu-ray was then upscaled and denoised/grained it with AI so it looks like dogshit.
Sounds like what George Lucas did to his own Star Wars movies, except in some ways worse.
Imagine all the little freak Glup Shittos that would be added in via AI if Lucas hadn't sold to Disney lmao
Edit: Well, I guess now we just have the digital corpses of OT actors edited into shit indefinitely
The Aliens one is ok, it adds a bunch of errors but doesn't change or ruin the movie. The True Lies one looks like shit.
FFMPEG does a much better job at upscaling to 4k than the majority of the remasters being cranked out.
I am excited for two generations of tech to go buy and I can just click a button and get Studio Ghibli's Aliens.
bahaha... he picked the worst company to join.. the one that shot its shot and is pretty much done for
I wonder if this has to do with integrating into modeling/vfx software like Houdini and Blender. Those "AI" tools are actually pretty good use cases for the tech.
Edit: I mean the texture generators specifically.
I wonder if this has to do with integrating into modeling/vfx software like Houdini and Blender.
How's the energy demands and carbon output of that compared to prior conventional methods? I don't know; I'm actually asking.
If it's anything like the giant coal-powered hell factory databases that tech startups are using and expanding right now to chase the "AI" hype dragon, we don't need more of that.
Depends on texture size and model. The models before LLMs and SDF hype are extremely efficient with the right libraries. Without getting to into the weeds these older ones are no different then doing any other image processing (like applying a gauss blur on 8k image or something). Newer stuff uses diffusion models. So something like a 500x500 texture probably is the equivalent to leaving 25 watt lightbulb on for an hour at worst. But you do it once and it repeats so it's efficient. I know the early models were trained on cropped animal patterns, zoomed in materials, and other very vanilla datasets.
I appreciate the information.
No problem. It's appalling companys are pushing this out at scale and virtually uncapped. These models use as much power as large scale scientific simulations/models. Video more so. You don't want a lot of people running these concurrently. VERY BAD lol
James Cameron is The Architect 
Nah, now shit is really gonna pop off. I am excited. Cause as much as this hurts artists it will eventually hurt the studios the most. And after all that settles we can just buy a cheap Chinese solar pannel to give us infinite cheap treats
Dude I have an idea it’s so cool just chew some glass dude it would be so funny
Everything is getting worse all the time. We can at least enjoy it a little. Democratization of the tools of artistic creation has historically only led to better art
Having a program make art for you isnt democratizing the tools of art. The artist who created the Mona Lisa was Da Vinci. The merchant who gave Da Vinci money and said “paint a picture of my wife in front of a landscape” was the artist’s patron. You are not the artist when you tell the plagiarism machine to make a picture for you. You are the patron. This is obvious and self-evident.
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James "Avatar is if the natives actually fought back unlike IRL" Cameron? He already had terrible opinions.
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