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[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 month ago (14 children)
[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The whole chart is rather fascinating and eye opening: Vehicle visibility

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Astounding. Hummer H2 beating the Sierra by 3m is incredible. A truck designed almost exclusively to express how selfish you are and it has better viability.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thanks, embedding:

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

An articulated quarry hauler is barely worse than a pick-up truck

‘murca

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I will gladly trade my SUV in for a gently used M1

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 month ago (9 children)

I have conservative family members who deliberately go for the biggest SUV with the lowest gas mileage available just to "stick it to the government." If the government told them that they couldn't drive a small car, they'd be out there shopping for a small car. It's incredibly childish.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (13 children)

Yeah, a lot of stupid culture war crap is now tied up into the car your own.

If people actually prioritized performance, handling, visability, cost to drive, and cabin features, then a LOT of people would probably be better off with a sedan.

If you don’t need the space, you can get so much more bang for your buck with a smaller car. The $10k more you spend on the larger form factor could go toward a nicer power train and cabin luxury features.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Most other countries I've been to, all the trades use these, and seem to have no problem getting projects done.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Toddler core behaviour

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

I had a student get just the worst giant diesel truck that was constantly breaking down so she could "stick it to the libs".

Girl was 18. Future of the nation?

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago

GOP judge declaring NHTSA unconstitutional in 3... 2... 1...

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Humans have quite literally invented cars that are better at killing people, especially children.

"I don't want children to die in accidents," say people as they drive huge masses of metal that might do just that.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (9 children)

I'll keep driving my PEV Minivan that has 360 cameras and I can see in front of me easily. I care about children's lives, unlike bubba in his lifted pickup truck. Why do you need a 4x4 lifted 3 feet and you live in the suburbs?

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago (20 children)

Why do little cars have to withstand a collision with a huge truck but trucks just get bigger and bigger? The new Hummer is over 9,000lbs (4,090 kg)

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

At 60 MPH the Hummer EV has the same kinetic energy as a 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback going 120mph.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Trying to imagine my old Civic doing that ….. holy shit that engine is winding up, glowing red hot, and I probably needed rocket boosters!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

wtf in Europe that thing couldn't be driven with a regular class B drivers license

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

The cybertruck is like 7k lbs.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As it is the US has no pedestrian safety standards at the federal level. I'm pretty sure if GM wanted to put out a truck with running chainsaws all over it then it would be perfectly legal as far as the NHTSA is concerned, although some state regulators might have a problem with it which is probably why it doesn't happen in reality.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

You're in the process of describing a Cybertruck, just the misfitting panel 'teeth' aren't rotating

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I have a Honda Fit (compact 4 seater) and absolutely LOVE the little car, plus it's easier to park. But holy shit looking for a compact is hard! Everything is a fucking SUV or truck these days! Just count the number of sedans vs SUVs next time you're out and about. My favorite cars, the 2 door Mini Cooper and VW Buggy, aren't even made any more.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Even the small cars have been progressively getting bigger over time, it's horrible

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Some of that is crumple zones and airbags, but yes there's pretty much nothing for "small" cars (10 to 14 feet long) in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (5 children)

For the first time ever, manufacturers would be required to study the impact of test dummies hit outside of vehicles. The rules would likely change the design of what America drives permanently.

That's all the article says about the actual rule changes. Based on this information alone, I know very little about what will actually change.

I feel like the NHTSA should do way more if they can and argue for limits on light truck sizes in their length, height, weight, and perhaps classification.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Well, for one thing, an M1 Abrams main battle tank has better front sightlines than most trucks on the road today.

And it isn't even that much more dangerous to get hit by because of the giant flat-face front impact planes of the trucks. Used to be if you got hit by a car it would roll you up over the hood, now you just die.

I have to imagine that will impact the testing and design at least somewhat.

Edit: fixed the image link

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

Every time I see a movie from the 90s and older, and they show a parking lot, I get sad. Everyone used to drive reasonably sized sedans. Family vehicles were wagons. Fuck SUVs and trucks.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (6 children)

My dream car: An EV version of the 1955 Nash Metropolitan, seen here in this silly ad photo:

(Sorry, it's hard to find pictures that give a true indication of the smallness of the car. Also, mine would be the red and white two tone variety.)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

I just want a tiny electric hatchback, like, Honda fit sized, that has like 150+ mile range, and doesn't use an outdated charging standard. I've considered a Nissan Leaf but they are still sticking with the chademo charger port, which is way less common.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Saw a lady driving a truck which its hood was taller than my veloster and all I saw was knuckles. This old lady probably couldn't even see the road.
Fuck these people and fuck the companies that make em

Large trucks like that should be like transports. Ya should have to take a special license course to even be able to own to prove you can drive it. 90% of truck owners can't so they own the biggest POS to ensure their safety at everyone's else's safety.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"MUH FREEDOM. FUCKIN COMMIES"

I can just see the pavement princess brigade seething because their next emotional support penismobile won't be exaggerated anymore and they will actually be able to see pedestrians and cyclists.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There should really be a redistribution gas tax, another dollar per gallon on gas which then goes back split evenly to every American. Incentivizes less gas usage while avoiding the regressive nature of a sales tax. Canada has something like this.

Ruinous politically so it would never happen but it would be a good plan.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

As was designed by the people who actually wrote those laws, the lobbyists. More profitable cars to sell as America moves farther and farther away from reality with car prices.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Bumper height needs to be standardized so they match up properly. One of the biggest safety issues is how modern SUV bumpers don't align with cars bumper bars.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s out of control. I drive a 2019 Kona and I moved to that from my 2013 Elantra. Last time I was at the dealer was looking at the new Konas and they’re bigger, too big for me.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Let’s target them in order to lower the demand for fossil fuels. The drivers of these vehicles are the ones driving up gas prices; and then subsequently crying about gas prices.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This seems like it could lead to significant innovation in vans in North America, or set least US/Canada. Van pickups, van sedans, van Goghs? After the initial temper tantrums, I think people will buy whatever comes out of the design phase. There used to be a lot of "beef" about emission control devices, but not so much anymore. Those folks moved on.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yay we will have the return of small trucks. These behemoths are good for towing and work, but not everyday driving.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

The last frontier, that showed up like forty years ago.

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