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Know your nazi (midwest.social)
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[-] [email protected] 79 points 10 months ago

This is good advice on it's face, but what if you're living in a country full of Nazis?

Like, let's say - hypothetically - the cops are Nazis. And all your mass media is full of Nazi agitprop. And friends and family are periodically repeating Nazis talking points. And you are feeling increasingly isolated by the sheer madness of the outside world.

Hypothetically, of course.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago

"What sane person could live in this world and not be crazy?" - Ursula K. Le Guin

Have you considered moving?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Sadly, I'm an English speaker so I'm very limited in my options.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

You mean the most widespread language on earth?

[-] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

But you always have the option to learn another language. It just takes some effort. It is easier to do than it ever has been before in history.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Finding an employer to sponsor you in most countries is exceedingly difficult for most Americans. We can't just move, unfortunately. There are strict immigration laws in most countries.

There were entire subreddits dedicated to this topic in the before-days. We need a Lemmy community for this complex topic.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Unless they've changed policy in the last six months, Portugal will take nearly anyone with stable remote work and fast track them to EU citizenship. This was/is the most viable choice for US citizens.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

You are thinking of their nomad visa (D8) which takes 5 years and requires a monthly income of at least $3200 Eur/mo. The problem has always been getting a U.S. employer to allow you to work remote AND out of country.

HR and payroll departments absolutely hate letting remote workers live outside the country because it makes tax liabilities and benefits complicated for them. So, it's quite rare to find a U.S. company that will do it. Even most multi-national megacorps are assholes about it.

But, if you are a successful freelancer with a very reliable income from non-Portuguese sources, then this may be an option. Most of us don't fit that bill, unfortunately. Hell, most Americans struggle just to get a hybrid work situation. The idea of international remote or stable freelancing is quite a tall order.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

When I pursued it there was a provision for the administrative tax burden of the employer. My employer withheld as usual for a US worker, then I would also need to file and post-pay Portugal's taxes.

Double taxation; an employer comfortable with it; new culture; national economic issues: I agree it's a tall order for the vast majority of Americans. And, it also seemed the most viable option. I think we agree that emmigration is quite difficult.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Tbh, if that's the case then, I will just join in a Marxist group that is serious about arm resistance. I'm too poor to move out anyway.

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[-] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago

That last line needs to be in all caps at the top. Never call the cops on Nazis, it'll just mean more Nazis putting the boot in.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is like basic common sense that is drilled into you from a young age if you're not white.

Got a problem and you call the cops? Now you've got two problems.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I'm white and even as a kid I felt unsafe around cops. As early as maybe 13 I'd reached this conclusion on my own.

I'm not sure what took everyone else the extra few decades.

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

This is so goddamn exhausting.

Thirty years ago I was reading poorly photostatted (sic) fliers at the local record shop explaining the difference between Nazis with red shoelaces and Nazis with yellow shoelaces. It was exhausting then, too. They're all basic bitch Nazis. Treat them the same way you would treat a potentially harmful arthropod, like a scorpion. You don't have to be a fucking entomologist to understand this shit.

Shun the Nazi. Leave it alone. Don't ask for help from Nazis.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

Gotcha. Summary:

Group name: Some shit that 12-year-olds would be embarrassed to use as a gang name, but surprise, the guy who came up with this shit was 60+ or something
Ideology: The same ol' shit, you've heard it all before
Identifiers: Well, this kind of shit, they kind of stick out from the crowd
What to do: The usual

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

So, the plan is "the usual": continue to minimize the threat and ignore it.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

TIL Best Buy employees are part of the Patriot Front.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I knew they had it out for Radio Shackers, it just took them a while to admit it.

[-] bdonvr 16 points 10 months ago

So many 3% stickers on cars around my area

[-] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

Should give them a 3% brick through the back window. /s

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

3% not brick works better.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Maybe do something like siphon all but 3% of the gas from the tank and let a similar amount of air from their tires

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Using the ceramic piece of a spark plug as the "bullet" and just about any sort of sling will break the cars windows without setting off most car alarms.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Everyone of the people I know who have the sticker/tattoo aren't Nazis, they are big into guns and tend to be anti-government though.

Three percent is from the population% that supported the American revolution at its inception, at least that's what I've understood of it.

I'm sure there are plenty of Nazis that also claim to be 3%ers but I've never known it to be a Nazi thing, maybe they have tried to claim it.

Similar to the OK hand sign I will never see it as a symbol of nazism/white supremacy.

Most of those stickers aren't Nazis

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

i think it's important to note that "1488" especially the 88 is a Nazi dog whistle.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

I thought we had all agreed that we punch nazis? LIke was this not the agreed apon reaction. If you had something more dangerous than a fist I would say you could use that... but this feels overly cowardly

[-] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

how many nazis have you punched

[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

It has been a while, but it used to happen around once a week a back in the day. They used to show up to music venues they weren't wanted at, and if made to leave, would start fights. If they were returning from a place they got the boot from, they would just poor in and start fighting. If it wasn't a place they could just enter, they would congregate outside.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

For legal reasons I am not sure I should state the amount of fist fights I have been in on the internet

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Several for sure. Back in my 20's at parties and punk shows. Nazi punks fuck off!!

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Never fly solo

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Individual violence only in defense of self and others. For violence against an ideology one should organize better than the enemy.

If you don't know how then study the unions. They'll likely lead us, once again.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Pussy as Nazis hiding their faces. Be a man, show your face, so someone can throw a brick at it.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Or you know....multiple.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Nice. Good looking out.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Where’s the elephant in the room?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Is it still acceptable to wear a S.H.A.R.P. patch? Don't they have a Spartan helmet on it?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Regarding the "What to do..." section, Be careful about point #2. The person in charge might be a nazi that invited other nazis.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

#2 should also specify that you should say something like "There are gang affiliated people here, as evidenced by [these specifiers]" rather than saying "There's nazis!!" People aren't going to take you as seriously if you say nazi rather than organized crime...

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"Blue shirt khaki pants" is the average Walmart worker uniform, or used to be, probably represents at least a million laborers in the US. Don't think this chart is very helpful in that quadrant.

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