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SAO PAULO (AP) — A Brazilian Supreme Court justice on Friday seized about $3 million from bank accounts belonging to social media platform X and satellite-based internet service provider Starlink, both companies controlled by tech billionaire Elon Musk.

The move by Justice Alexandre de Moraes was aimed at collecting funds that are equivalent to the amount that X owes to the country in fines. The bank accounts of the two companies have since been unfrozen.

Legal analysts have questioned de Moraes’ prior decision to freeze Starlink’s bank account to pay for cases related to X. While Musk owns both X and SpaceX, which operates Starlink, the two companies are separate entities.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Just, just a terrible terrible title

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Framed to make it look like a corrupt judge, when its just the totally standard seizing of assets due to a fine that hasnt been paid.

Happens to normal civilians all the time so why not to companies?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I was seriously trying to figure out why this guy was paying the fines

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's probably a translation error from Portuguese to English

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Or a translation error from based AF to AP corporate bootlicking.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Separate entities that decided to be in contempt of court over the same issue. That sort of shit justifies piercing the corporate veil. Starlink backtracked after they realized the absolute fuck up they performed, but that judge viewed it as too little, too late.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

While they are separate entities, its not like musk treats them as such when it benefits him. he redirected a ton of GPUs from tesla to twitter, for example

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Isn't this one of the things SBF got charged/arrested for, mixing assets from different companies.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Yep! He's moved employees between the two companies too.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

3.3m / 182b = 0.0018% of Elon Musk's wealth.

What percentage of your wealth do you lose if you get caught driving 5mph over the speed limit?

This shit needs to be proportional to both severity of the crime and total wealth.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

My most recent speeding ticket cost me 14% of my bank account and about a week later resulted in me putting groceries on a credit card.

I agree with you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Musk isn't hurt by the amount of money he's fined, but it annoys him terribly that he can't control the situation and that his usual tools for getting his way are useless. It is a pebble in his boot that he can't bluster, cajole, or bribe his way out of the problem like usual.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This was the only they were gonna get paid. Musk couldn't even be bothered to pay the agreed lease on his own headquarters. And that was before he jammed his head up Trump's asshole so he's probably even more contemptuous about paying his dues now.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Brazil doing based stuff

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Should have withdrawn $2,299,999 just so Musk would have to pay that last dollar himself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I will make my own Brazil, with hate speech and rockets 😢