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Honestly don't know what they thought was going to happen. They've had some misfires lately with the PS5 Pro not being needed at all (the PS5 is a decent bit of kit, and certainly capable of handling everything this gen can throw at it), selling a remote access tablet/controller that doesn't connect to their own cloud service, and even they've stopped talking about Concord.
Mechanical Keyboard Community:
"I need to see these $233 switches!" (Drools)
I could buy a steam deck and a shitload of games on sale for that
That’s what I did when my PC died and I’d do it again given the choice
The last straw with consoles for me was when they all started charging money regularly just to play online multiplayer games.
My Steam Deck makes for a better console-like experience than any of the major consoles, and more. I have zero interest in going back to Sony or especially Nintendo's scams.
I don't even play online. I'm just there for the monthly games.
It blows my mind that the greatest trick Valve ever pulled was releasing a console that relies solely on backwards compatibility. There are zero games released for the steam deck.
To be fair, there was 1 game released directly for the Steam Deck; Aperture Desk Job.
Not only that, the Steam Deck actually has worse compatibility compared to a normal Windows PC, but the PC library is so extensive (and has so many emulators) that it doesn't matter. You still have access to more games than anyone on a normal console ever could, and you can play most singleplayer console games for free. I played Mario Odyssey all the way through on my PC and it ran great.
And even better: people not valve will actually go and work to make the games that aren't compatible working. For free.
It's not quite strictly worse; some older games are easier to run in wine than natively. But your point still stands.
They could have given us full backwards compatibility for that.
It would be an instant buy for me if it has full backwards compatibility, and I'd let them tack on another hundo for psp/vita games. That's basically what my Steam deck is. Every console emulated and PC games.
I love how Sony learned nothing from the PS3 launch price.
You didn't need a subscription to play games online.
The launch PS3 was arguably Sony’s last great console (namely hardware backwards compatibility); I choose to die on this hill. 🫡
It also had the "other OS" feature! It's strange that the PS3 remains the only big console to have that feature, given how difficult its architecture is to work with. The modern consoles are all much closer to just being prebuilt PCs and none of them have it.
The primary reason was that sony wanted to take advantage of lower import taxes in the EU by classifying it as a general-purpose computer. Thats why they also abandoned OtherOS after the EU ruled that the PS3 was not a computer but a game console.
Personally I decided about 6 years ago that I wouldn't buy another non-portable game console.
At this stage I just don't see any reason to drop $600+ on a console when I could put that $600~ towards upgrading my PC and get vastly more value for my money.
So as far as I'm concerned, the only consoles worth looking at at all right now at the Nintendo Switch, which I have and love, and the Steam Deck, which would offer me my PC gaming experience with something it lacks: portability.
Aside from that, I personally couldn't give 2 shits what's happening in the world of XBox or Playstation these days.
Why would you need 3 switches when you could get a 1.5km line of loafs of bread with that money?
Honestly, Sony really sees itself as a premium(ish) brand that puts a heavy emphasis on novelty with a bit of sophistication thrown in. They also see Nintendo as a kid's toy company. So, the expense (and some of the scarcity) is entirely the point.
Genuine question, could you make a PC that can perform as well as the PS5 Pro for $700?
I’ve built many computers for work over the years, but never my own gaming PC. I’m starting to plan one and I have no idea what I do and do not need, performance-wise. Like, I know I don’t need a 4090, but how cheap is too cheap to get good performance?
The real trick is to find a friend that's a PC gamer and casually mention that you're considering building a PC. It is out of your hands at that point. The call will go out and spread like the fires of Gondor to everyone they know on Discord. Slowly but surely, used parts will begin to trickle in from others who have recently upgraded their PCs and have pieces they no longer need. A case here. Some old RAM there. A 3-4 year old GPU. Peripherals.
Like hermit crabs changing shells, their old equipment will be passed down to you; the newest convert. Eventually you will have nearly all the pieces needed for a good mid-range gaming PC, to the point where you might as well just get the last few parts to finish it. And then your journey will be complete.
As the years go by and you slowly upgrade your PC like a modern day Ship of Thebes, make sure to save all your old equipment. For there will come a time when you will hear those fateful words, "Hey, my friend is thinking about building a computer..." And the cycle shall begin anew.
I think someone just did it in this thread, but something else to consider is that a PC usually enables you to buy games much more cheaply, multiplayer is not behind a subscription, the catalogue is basically infinite and it also enables so many other activities than just gaming.
Its about price to performance value. With same value you can build an equivalent PC. Which won't be banned and turned into a brick on their own whim. Many users very unjustly banned and were not able to connect to internet and game online. For the same price you could do more to with PC. Pros out weighs the cons
... can you actually make a PC with comparable performance these days? What does a console-level GPU cost these days?
You have to consider the versatility of a pc to truly compare them. The pc will have better alternative uses like web browsing, the pc is very easy and fairly cheap to increase storage, you may be able to upgrade just some RAM or GPU to keep up rather than buying a new console. You'll also have access to more games and more modding opourtunities. You can still use a controller on pc although you are often at a disadvantage in most FPS style games.
If you just want to game a console may be better or easier but overall a pc is usually the better investment in the long run.
If you game online that'll also be an extra $400+ over the life span of console. So the real question is can you build a PC for $1100+
28 Blåhajar + a Mini one.
Did a quick one to mimic my current “console killer” pc that sits in my living room, runs Bazzite 6700 XT
This is new stuff, one of the benefits of PC gaming is that you can roll builds. So if you had a gaming pc in the last 5 years you're looking at a £450 upgrade, not a £700 one if you're a PS5 player. Or even hitting up used for things like cases etc
Using a bench of Horizon Zero Dawn for the GPU
2k bench taken from techspot
so doing what the PS5 pro will be and using an upscaller like FSR/DLSS to hit 4k
4K is in the 50s, but again scalers used brings it to 60.
| Type | Item | Price |
|---|---|---|
| CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor | £87.70 @ NeoComputers |
| Motherboard | Biostar B450MHP Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | £50.99 @ Ebuyer |
| Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL16 Memory | £16.48 @ Amazon UK |
| Storage | Western Digital Blue SA510 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | £99.98 @ Amazon UK |
| Video Card | ASRock Radeon RX6700XT PGD 12GO Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card | £449.99 @ Amazon UK |
| Case | Thermaltake S100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | £34.99 @ Scan.co.uk |
| Power Supply | MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | £42.99 @ Amazon UK |
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts | ||
| Total | £783.12 | |
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-12 08:02 BST+0100 |
I have played GOW as well as a ton of other games this year at a resolution of 2K 144fps HDR on my machine without any issues or stutters. Also don't have to wait for a republish that I have to rebuy to enjoy older games at 4k 140hz currently playing AC4 and it looks amazing.