this post was submitted on 08 Sep 2024
50 points (69.5% liked)

Unpopular Opinion

6246 readers
105 users here now

Welcome to the Unpopular Opinion community!


How voting works:

Vote the opposite of the norm.


If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it's something that's widely accepted, give it an arrow down.



Guidelines:

Tag your post, if possible (not required)


  • If your post is a "General" unpopular opinion, start the subject with [GENERAL].
  • If it is a Lemmy-specific unpopular opinion, start it with [LEMMY].


Rules:

1. NO POLITICS


Politics is everywhere. Let's make this about [general] and [lemmy] - specific topics, and keep politics out of it.


2. Be civil.


Disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally attack others. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Please also refrain from gatekeeping others' opinions.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Shitposts and memes are allowed but...


Only until they prove to be a problem. They can and will be removed at moderator discretion.


5. No trolling.


This shouldn't need an explanation. If your post or comment is made just to get a rise with no real value, it will be removed. You do this too often, you will get a vacation to touch grass, away from this community for 1 or more days. Repeat offenses will result in a perma-ban.



Instance-wide rules always apply. https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Don't get me wrong, there are problems with it, both in the process that modern AI uses as well as the sources that it draws from, however, as of right now ai is just a tool like auto-tune or photoshop.

Even though it will change the media formats that it is attached to, it will not supplant them within the next 5 to 10 years, it will simply transform them.

all 27 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

As someone who daily drives ChatGPT for a lot of stuff, I agree. I heard someone put it this way "AI is perfect for stuff that is hard to find but easy to verify".

The other day I took a photo of my liquor cabinet and told it to make a cocktail recipe with ingredients on hand. Or if I encounter an error on my PC I'll just describe the problem. Or for movie recommendations when I have a very specific set of conditions. Or trying to remember a show from my childhood with only a vague set of memories. The list goes on.

Particularly for anything coding. If I'm trying to learn something I always learn best when I can just see an example of the thing in action as documentation is not always great. Or if I'm doing data manipulation and I have the input and output and just need the function to convert one to the other. I recently saved a whole afternoon of effort with that one. Or spec tests I'll just drop my whole code file in and ask it for full coverage.

These are all things that traditional search engines are poor or incapable of. I'd have a hard time going back if they just turned all this off tomorrow.

I think there's a lack of education around how to use AI which is actually a problem. Like you shouldn't be using it to identify if a mushroom is safe to eat. You shouldn't be using really for anything food or health related for that matter. You should ask it for its sources when you are unsure of its answers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Chatbots are just the next stage of evolution in search engines.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yep. The few times I used chatGPT was when I wanted to look something up but didn't know what keywords to use and it was easier to just describe it. Or when I just didn't feel like digging through links and just wanted an answer to a not so important question.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Looks like he's okay with it after all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Didn't he literally make friends with an AI in that movie?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

I just wish companies would stop cramming it into every product and making it the selling point for everything because they can't think of anything else to do. It's kind of fun to play with sometimes but it just isn't useful at all for most tasks that companies seem to want us to use it for. I'm hoping it will be mostly forgotten outside of niche uses in a few years the same way we forgot about 3D TVs or NFTs as soon as the next new tech buzzword got invented

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

It will transform mediocre content into crap, and then it will regurgitate that crap into worse and worse crap. All of that at the expensive of untold Terawatt-hours of energy. AI will not take over the world, but it sure will help destroy it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Its energy usage and effectiveness vs human laziness that worries me.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

The problem is not the tech, as usual, it's the people, who have been led to believe it's AGI, who equate forming syntactically correct sentence with intelligence, and that that is enough to perform most white collar tasks.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

There are ethical problems with how many of the models have been created and some of what they're being used for

But I generally agree, it's pretty much the same thing we see with every technological innovation—something big changes and a load of things get disrupted, a group of people then get angry about said innovation, eventually those people dwindle and the innovation gets absorbed into the general public's idea of what modern life consists of.

I can't think of any big innovation over the past few decades that hasn't really followed a similar trajectory

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To offer a counternarative, we don't really know where AI will plateau, what will a 1 quadrillion parameter language model look like? And will it make my degree worthless by comparison lol?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Eve when when it does, we will still have hallucination. It will still be impossible to guarantee a correct answer. It'll be more accurate, but those problems require heavy rethinking to models themselves, more accurate models will lessen it but it won't go away

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

What is your degree to you? A means by which to qualify for a job? Or the lens through which you perceive and shape the world around you for the better?

Because AI might some far-flung day make the former obsolete, but I don't think ever the latter.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

The dangers of AI should be determined by application, not capability. It’s a tool, like any other. You can use a hammer to build a house or cave in a skull.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

That's exactly what AI would tell you

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem is that not the tech. The problem, as always, is Capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

True but I can't think of anything that capitalism hasn't fucked up one way or another.

I would be against making AI responsible for what capitalism has done.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Neither am I. I'm just pointing out that Capitalism has ruined ai like it ruined everything from the loom to the printing press to the internet

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

It isn't as great as it's proponents say either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Even AI porn is getting good.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

AI is awesome! Don't let the luddites convince you otherwise.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago

Ai is the way!