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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I was a hot take enjoyer that actually for the most part liked Wuk Lamat and would say so after doing dungeons/raids as a sort of fun little incendiary device thrown into the chatbox while waiting to roll on loot.

Some freeze-gamer hated her because she brought "cookie cutter sunshine and rainbows" (their words) to the setting, which is totally a thing utterly dominating fiction because there wasn't already a decade-plus of awooga libertarian-alert hypersus in fantasy fiction in overreaction to scary phantasms of "cookie cutter sunshine and rainbows."

Others hated her because feeemale... though as soon as word got out that the English localization voice actress was trans, things got wild very quickly. frothingfash

Outside of chuddery, there was room for criticism, especially for some not-great delivery during some key moments that could have used a re-recording with a little more passion to them, and yes the story pacing was slow (which I was fine with personally because my character was "on vacation" and wanted to take it slow and meet new people and learn the local cultures) which was a bit of a whiplash from the prior expansions. The old support characters in the Scions were under-used in favor of new characters, and that obviously is grounds for disappointment for some too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

While I feel Dawntrail was a step down from previous expansions (which I mean come on, the two previous expansions were some of the best FF stories ever told), it really has bummed me out how much more negative the discourse around the game is now. I can see the argument Wuk Lamat could have maybe been used less in some parts of the story, but I think honestly its more the quest design that caused MSQ to slog in the first half, but a vocal amount of people will just ignore this and go back to harassing VA and localizers.

I'm glad Yoshi-P is defending his team. I wish he'd have done it sooner.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What are these people getting upset about now? It's so hard to keep up with the rage of the day from these jagoffs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The English dub had a trans voice actor

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Oh. Of course the chuds would be in an uproar. They can go die in a pit. Fucking losers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

And here I thought maybe FF fans were better gamers, no full on G*mer brain.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

FFXIV had a ton of WoW refugees, so that didn't help

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I played FFXIV for years, and unlike WoW (which I had previously played for years), the chuddery was generally concentrated in Ul'dah zone chat, or maybe whatever hub had vendors for end-game gear at the time instead of being basically everywhere.

The chuddery did flare up more recently and get more widespread, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sucks because XI at least today has a pretty inclusive and good base.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Sucks because XI at least today has a pretty inclusive and good base.

I tried that one for a while but the whole "the purpose of grinding is to grind and the grind is the point" put me off. In FFXIV, I tended to spend most of my time at the game's given maximum level and just enjoying horizontal (or kind of diagonal) progress instead of "let's punch these critters for days on end."

FFXIV tried to bring that back with the whole Eureka zone, but I hated it and lots of Eureka enjoyers were super toxic about anyone expressing dislike of it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every community has g@mers and tourists.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

tourists.

Such a perfect term for right-wing chud culture warriors who've never played the game's entries in their lives to show up and make money off outrage they stoke for youtube clicks then when the well dries up they disappear into the night.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've noticed calling them tourists really pisses them off and makes them wander off from whatever intended chuddery they were otherwise going to do to overreact to being called that.

Keep doing it!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

It works because the narrative in their minds is that fake fans of the series are coming and making it "woke" to spite them. They don't like it when it turns out in reality they were the real fake fans all along.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

People who play FFXIV are MMORPG fans, not necessarily final fantasy fans. As final fantasy games go, FFXIV is not very good due to its genre and business model