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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (5 children)

... or we are not the Bell Riot Timeline

... we are also not in the Bad Timeline

... we are probably in the Worst Possible Timeline and never venture beyond our solar system let alone our planetary system.

The Vulcans are sitting just outside our solar system and see what's happening and are saying to themselves 'yeah, we'll pass, these guys are doomed anyway'

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Maybe this timeliness is where the first aliens we meet are The Borg

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Maybe this is the timeline where we start the Borg..

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Don't give Elon more ideas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

We're teaching it how to think as we speak.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

We are the Terrans.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention, these Vulcans have… goatees!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Evil goatees.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

You win the Back to Reality award. Congratulations, I guess.

A variant would be that we're on the Third Body Problem alternate timeline, where everyone in the Dark Forest already knows about us and don't do anything simply because we are our own worst enemy and will take care of ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The worst timeline is that there are no Vulcans

Not sure if it is also worst for there to be no Borg.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

An alternate reality in Star Trek The Next Generation where William Riker is disheveled and scared because the Borg have wiped out the Federation and his enterprise is one of the last ships left.

“The Federation is gone, my beard is everywhere!”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wait… what episode is this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Parallels (s7e11).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

All Borg, all the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

It was the best of timelines, it was the worst of timelines...

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Dystopian future, 90s style: People have to stand in line for their free food. The living space provided isn't nice. Social workers have viable careers but are stressed out.

What the hell happened.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

You mean when the economy collapsed due to corporate greed and we rewarded them by bailing them out?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Late stage capitalism. Back in the 90s the corpos didn't want to squeeze every last drop out of you like they do today. Might be nostalgia, but it feels like this kinda started ramping up around the 08 collapse...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

They absolutely did want to squeeze every last drop out of you. They've never not. The only difference is that we've had decades of regulatory capture, unrestricted corporate mergers, and lower tax rates for the rich. So now they're free to squeeze much harder than they have previously.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Past Tense was '90s Star Trek writers' best guess at what late stage capitalism might look like.

Our current actual reality is literally worse than they could imagine.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ironically, the Department of Temporal Investigations never saw Abed's dice coming.

Screenshot from Community episode Remedial Chaos Theory

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I forget. As a woman, is the tape-on goatee provided or do I have to manufacture one myself?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

They'll be in your onboarding packet. But only three. After that, you'll have to grow your own.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You mean, as opposed to gestures broadly

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

That’s the point. Instead of things being shitty and we do something about it it just gets worse.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are we the mirror timeline?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately/Fortunately, those events divert around the time of Zefram Cochran. At least, as was depicted at the beginning of "In a Mirror Darkly"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The opening credits of Enterprise shows the Terran Empire landing on the Moon after winning what would be WW2 for us. I think the point of divergence is well before Zephram and even the 20th Century.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think it was depicting the Empire retaking the moon after WWIII (and then fighting over who did the retaking), not a replacement for the original moon landing.

What happened in A Mirror Darkly shows the divergent point from the primary Star Trek timeline, which diverged from our own timeline in the 1960s or 1970s.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hadn't considered the credits montage. But that makes it much less likely for Cochran to even exist, let alone still develop warp drive post WWIII.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Everything in the Mirror timeline makes it highly unlikely that the same people would exist as in the Prime timeline. There's just something about that universe that makes such extreme improbabilities happen regardless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That plot stupidity is part of why I low-key hate all the mirror universe stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I think it's explained as the Mirror Universe somehow being specially connected to the Prime one. But yeah, it's really just an excuse to show known characters being assholes.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Tbf, the real year to be worried about is 2026, when WWIII: Nuclear Edition kicks off

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

which we seem to be right on target for.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Delightfully exactly 250 years from the US's Declaration of Independence!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If this is true, we get Kira in skin-tight leather. So, it's not all bad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Make em say uhhh uhhh nana na na

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Long after you're dead, so is it really all that worth it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

They said what they said

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

What We Leave Behind...

[–] HobbitFoot 10 points 2 months ago

As bad as how conditions were shown in the Bell Riots, conditions now are a lot worse.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

We hit the bad timeline when we missed the eugenics wars.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Bell was killed, and another person filled in the role. I believe that we'll have our moment, but it isn't now. Bell isn't going to save us, we need to save ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

So what happens now? Are they going to retcon the Bell Riots like they did with WW3 and the Eugenics Wars? Will they wait a little bit more so they can also retcon the Irish reunification in the same story arc?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I thought trek was scifi, some of you seem to think it's scifa(ct).