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Do you ever think it's weird that we commonly refer to "estrogen" as the opposite/analog to "testosterone" instead of "estradiol"? (hexbear.net)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Estrogen isn't a molecule. It's a class of feminizing hormones, the most prominent of which is estradiol. Others include estrone and estriol. Collectively, these are called estrogens.

The masculinizing analog for estrogen is androgen (a word you practically never hear*), which also refers to a class of hormones. In addition to being the most well-known of the androgens, testosterone might be the most famous hormone in the whole body**. Dihydrotestosterone is actually the most potent androgen. Androsterone and Androstenedione are (relatively weak) others.

*e.g. It's such an androgen fest!

**Adrenaline is the only competitor that comes to mind.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bro we have rules about what side your shirt has to button up depending on how your genitals look, none of it makes any fucking sense

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (6 children)

What?? walter-shock

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I work in a lab type area with lab coats. The button thing is so ingrained that women during training will frequently get confused with the lab coats because they have the masculine button arrangement.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

That’s interesting, I’ve never seen someone get confused but I have known several women who didn’t know it was a gendered thing and just thought it was kinda random bc they’ve worn a lot of men’s clothes and didn’t put it together

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

[in the west] Despite the fact that the vast majority of all humans are right-handed, only men's shirts have buttons on the right side. Women's shirts have buttons on the left side.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Holy shit, I’ve never noticed that. Admittedly I have only ever worn men’s shirts, but do the laundry all the time and I guess just never looked close enough at my wife’s shirts.

Now I’m going to need to look up why. Is there a reason aside from really weird misogyny?

Edit: preliminary research shows that it was possibly due to the intricate nature of women clothing in the renaissance era, usually a servant was doing the buttons

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Yeah men’s buttons are on the right side, women’s are on the left.

In the long ago women’s clothes were very complicated so (rich) women would have servants help dress them, so the buttons on women’s clothes are meant for a second person to button them.

Vs men’s clothes even kings would dress themselves because it was easy, so the weird things we have are like, the bottom button on suit jackets that is never supposed to be buttoned bc some king wasn’t able to button his jacket

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

actually figured this was sth all trans people knew cause at one point half my shirts were on one side and the other half on the other side lmfao

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

I never wear button ups lol failure

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's the same with belts in my experience. Men wear buckles pointing to the right and women to the left. (Requisite GENERALLY here. I'm obviously not going around getting up close and personal to peoples' waists).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

What??

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ever think it's weird that the class of female sex hormones is named after a biological process that doesn't actually occur in humans

Humans don't go into heat with an estrous cycle, they have a menstrual cycle

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean one of the important proteins for embryos to develop symmetry is named after sonic the hedgehog

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

TIL

That reminds me of the word "vitamin". It's short for "vital amines", because scientists believed that they were all amines (nitrogen-containing organic molecules). They are not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hydrogen is called that because it was thought to specifically come from water

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

It kinda does.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

nerd

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

party-parrot-science Chemistry is my area of expertise. smuglord capybara-fancy

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

*e.g. It's such an androgen fest!

I wish we used that instead just for the pun of calling muscle-heads "androids"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's weird because we live in a capitalist patriarchal gender binary authoritarian hell world where man and woman are elemental particle antiparticle pairs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

we live in a capitalist patriarchal gender binary authoritarian hell world where man and woman are elemental particle antiparticle pairs

that's maybe the perfect description of why binarity is nonsense in gender. great example.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Most people don't do biochem and do vibe based everything at best.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Androsterone and Androstenedione

AyyyyyOC-big peppino-anime tony-cheer

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Estradiol" doesn't roll off the tongue quite as nice

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Maybe. But neither does testosterone.

It's not so bad if you know the pronunciation: Ess---truhh---DIE---all