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What's the implied (final) solution to this extremely concerning situation, bucko? peterson-pain

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Hey Siri what's the average cost of raising a child

Hey Siri, what's the minimum wage

[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

I really do mean this non-rhetorically: what do these bazinga chuds propose about his "concerning!!" issue? It sure as shit isn't material aid for women.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Consider that capitalists view workers as, essentially, livestock and you will get your answer (this is also why I believe veganism and socialism are linked)

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago

absolutely, I think a lot of this stems from animal husbandry applied to people

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Look out, we got a live one in this thread. If you look at his "both sides" comments and read between the lines, you can see how much he's salivating for that aforementioned livestock. kombucha-disgust

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The old-school r/cth energy is always at its strongest whenever a conservative dipshit wanders in, lol

Hexbearites are siblings. We will constantly antagonize each other over the dumbest shit but if someone from outside comes after any of us, we unleash our fury as one

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Hexbear, setting aside outdoor cat struggle sessions when a stray "both sides" conservative shows up:

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the livestock isn't breeding milord improve-society

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago

MORE precarity will fix that. my-hero

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

straight women are having fewer kids and can't afford the ones they do have

The solution to this is to complain about queer people!

I guess it's comforting that my enemies are braindead and childish?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago

It's a small measure of comfort but it's at least something.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

not many culprits in this thread, but i feel i must bring this up. often leftists (and i will say, especially men) like to point at "material conditions" as more or less the sole reason for declining birthrates. often going as far to imply that the issue would simply go away (i.e. birthrates would return to what they were 100 odd years ago) if the right economic supports existed, or say, under a communist framework. this is not only a myopic view, it's reactionary and essentialises women basically to the right wing view of being broodmares for men. the reality that many leftists still need education on, is that when women are afforded more reproductive rights, and broadly, the freedom to choose their own path in life, they have less kids. this is a material reality. i won't argue that everyone being poorer isn't a factor in falling birthrates, but it is not the only one, and any future revolutionary project will have to grapple with the issue in more realistic and inventive ways than "improve material conditions and birthrates will return!" it's idealist and wildly misogynistic.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I-was-saying I think declining birth rates are fine as long as people are comfortable and happy and therefore they should have improved material conditions anyway.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

that's fine, just saying it's something future society will have to plan for and figure out. i don't have all the answers it just grinds my gears when men act like "just pay women and they will go back to having kids" is somehow a woke idea or even holds any water at all. not saying you were doing that, and like i said there are thankfully few culprits in this thread but i still have a bad taste in my mouth from the last couple struggle sessions about this.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

I think declining birth rates are fine

Even the chuds implicitly acknowledge this when they mention overpopulation. The only reason they care about birth rates falling is their racism

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago

When people say improve material conditions, I believe most are referring to making birth and raising a child essentially free.

I believe many socialist countries have had state funded childcare, and obviously many have socialized medicine. This allowed women to both work and have children.

Yeah, as women gain more autonomy and reproductive rights, the birthrate will go down, but we should at least make it as easy as possible for those who do want children.

Anecdotally, I know three couples who want to have children, and all of them say they can't because they can't afford it. They all had to move back in with their parents, too. I can't help but feel money plays a major role here because it creates a barrier of entry to those who do want kids.

Then again, anecdotally, to your point, my wife and I can afford children but simply don't want any. We aren't the only ones.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (18 children)

Maybe they should raise the quality of men a little

No hexbear I swear to god I'm not starting another interminable struggle session if the above made you mad go touch grass and hold someone you loves' hands

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I think the core of chud dudebro thinking is that they are fine exactly as they are and the entire world must break itself apart to fit their every whim and desire.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

this

The idea that a relationship should begin with a friendship built on mutual trust and respect is anathema to their worldview

They are owed things, they don't think they have to earn anything

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago

They are the main character, and they expect "NPC" helpmeets to cater to senpai's every whim. kombucha-disgust

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah, but they do want to raise the quality of men.

frothingfashspeech-side-l-1 Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times.speech-side-l-2

pronouns Just make men men again and put an end to the soy menace.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

There's a live one in this thread that'd probably take your post completely seriously and tip his fedora gleefully at you.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dude, you're literally running propaganda for maintaining the economic system that not only makes having children unaffordable but also destroys community, atomises people and makes forming meaningful relationships increasingly difficult.

But sure, it is those feeeeemales who are to blame.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The ruling class, fretting about the peasants not breeding enough:

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When Elon becomes president (they will change the rules) he will round them up at gunpoint and force them to be government provided girlfriends to incels.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago

"In a 6-3 decision by the supreme court..." kombucha-disgust

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Whats concerning is this beady eyed fuck's father got a second child with his step daughter that he raised as a toddler. cringe

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

They utterly hate each other, and yet my-hero basically became the same thing, up to and including the pathologies and preference for specific kinds of vacation plans. epsteingelion

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I would love to be single and childless in 2030. That would mean I get to live independently and carve a life for myself that has meaning on my terms.

Why that concerns a blood-emerald billionaire is irrelevant.

I remember during one of his fake threats to leave the public eye, he said he could be living a luxe life with models and I'm like, go do that, pay the models well for their time and stop getting concerned about the lack of bang maids for racist men who smell like milk.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If i was him, I'd use my billions to fake my death, get cosmetic surgery and just live out a quiet and comfortable life. But he's clutching his meme lord persona so hard.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Could have been like Tom from MySpace, where he just fucked off with a big payout and just sort of chills all day without any worries.

Still bourgeoisie, but by comparison a lot less harmful.

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