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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

USA edition:

If you're a billionaire: vote Republican.

If you're not a billionaire: vote Democrat.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

(*) may not apply in elections where the Republican wants to start a profit-conflagarating civil war

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (9 children)

And either way, you still get to be poor. Great system we have here.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Make a budget, each month.

Write down your expected expenses. Keep it simple. Use paper and a calculator.

Rewrite the list, in order of priority, to you.

I've met so many people who are scared to do this, yet would be pleased if they did.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For bills that are due on a regular basis but not monthly (car registration, oil changes, pet’s annual check up, HVAC check ups if you own a home, etc) - figure out how much each costs per year, add them all up, divide by 12, and set up an auto-transfer to a savings account for that amount every month. Don’t forget to include that amount in your monthly budget too.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This x100. I literally never worry about bills anymore.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Actually it's x12

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Invest in tennis balls. They have a high rate of return.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Serious version. Probably mostly US-centric:

Credit cards are a tool. Just like any other tool, they can be useful or they can cause damage when improperly used. Educate yourself on how to wield a credit card effectively.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Credit cards are a tool. Just like any other tool, they can be useful or they can cause damage when improperly used. Educate yourself on how to wield a credit card effectively.

What he’s trying to say is, learn to use them like ninja stars - shuriken. They’re sharp and deadly if scaled properly.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

Inherit your wealth!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Look up how cumulative interest works, then start investing in ETFs or index funds that follow MSCI World or S&P 500 for example. Then wait.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's been 4 hours. What's supposed to happen?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

To add to this, also research ETF and mutual fund fees! Sooooo many are more than willing to charge a "small" 1% fee that will cost you thousands of dollars or more. Others are bold and charge even more. Look for fees in the 0.01% - 0.03% range for your trusty index and targeted retirement funds. Some even have 0%, though those harder to come by.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Think of playing a 4x video game, focus every day on building your economic engine. Everything you spend should have some economic engine return (school, books, computer, etc)

Play this like 50 times https://buildyourstax.com/

Avoid debt.

Use the FASFA (in the us), if your under 25 marry another student (then your EFC is 0). Don't pay for grad-school, only join programs that pay you.

Networking, and Experiences are more important then over-time alone. Building your network is part of building your engine. Join the club, go to the networking parties, improv group, show up sometimes to the toastmasters, NETWORKING IS WORTH THE TIME AND MONEY. But, always make sure your networking with people who inspire you, and don't drag you down. It's ok to hangout with the down group, just not habitually.

It's ok to say no! No, really - you can say no to things. Nobody gives a shit about your phone, or car.

Learn how to use a spreadsheet (or just do the math by hand), get the TOTAL cost of all commitments over the life of the commitment (total cost of car, or house, etc), including all the one time origination fees. The only number that matters is the total cost, all the other numbers move around, but the total cost should drive your decisions.

Learn about your credit, and keep it clean (credit wise is good enough here)

Read Debt: The first 5000 years, appreciate the power of liquidity and opportunity costs.

Subscriptions are traps, avoid them as much as possible.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

If you want to increase your credit score and are financially responsible, switch over to using a credit card.

Diversify your portfolio: Instead of putting everything into savings, split some of it into stocks and shares.

I've heard that they amount you should be putting into your pension is a percent of your income equal to half the age you were when you started saving. Not sure how accurate that is.

If you do happen to be well off and/or have a good job, spend your money on things you like rather than hoarding it.

Donating to charity and supporting small businesses is usually morally correct. If you have the means, tip your instance admin or developers of software you use.

Be careful when buying things that the seller can remove from you at any time. But don't use that as an excuse to not buy things you'll enjoy while you have them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you can use credit cards responsibly, look into credit card churning for points. I fly business class for any extended flight and I pay less than what economy would cost.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Absolutely this, people paying cash and with debit cards end up just subsidizing points redemptions. Merchants aren't eating card fees (typically 1.5-3% of a purchase), they just baked it into prices.

With a stable income, watching what you spend, and auto-pay, carrying a card balance is super easy to avoid these days.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have no social life, it's much cheaper.

But in all seriousness, if you have to have a social life, limit your spending on that stuff. Restaurant and bar tabs can add up quickly. Budget, limit your drinking, and if you don't wanna limit your drinking, at least do some cheap drinking at home first.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If your retirement fund isnt 7 figures or larger, you probably aren't going to retire in your own home. "The old folks home" ain't cheap, and they WILL take it all to pay for it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You can find just about anybody's Social Security number. (Equivalently, they can find yours.) Amazingly, some institutions still use knowledge of this number as proof of identity for purposes of extending credit to a stranger.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Avoid having more than one large loan at at time ($10000 or more). Pay off your loans early by paying to principal. Pay off your credit card(s) every month. Drive slowly to spend less on gas. Buy goods in solid form, no liquids, to save money. Ditch fast foods, do meal prep instead. Eat less meat, like maybe once or twice a week.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Every luxury takes work to pay for. Even a fancy car for people making well over six figures is a financial ball and chain. Think long and hard about the stuff you buy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Every expense delays your retirement. If you need $60k per year to retire, and you buy a $60k car in your 30's, congratulations, you just delayed your retirement by over a year. Very few people think about that stuff in their 20's and 30's, but I promise that your 40's and 50's are just around the corner, and you'll be thinking about it a lot by then.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

When I was younger, cars were unreliable pieces of shit. I'd never buy a car between four and eight years old, that's when they really started needing work. After that, most dodgy bits had been replaced and rust was the biggest killer.

Now, even cheap cars are astonishingly reliable, and will easily last 20 years if taken care of.

Manufacturers know this,and have spent the last decade convincing people they need to lease a brand new car every three years

They've convinced mugs that cars are a subscription service

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Budgeting is very important. some people like the 20% of income for saving, 30% for living expenses and the other 50% for everything else. Pre or post tax is up to you as this is a rule of thumb. Important part is that it should be easy for you to build up your savings to cover important expenses. spending 50% of income on housing may be really bad since having back to back years of badluck can screw over your savings, and not give you enough time to save up in between.

This is a general rule that applies when you make enough to do so. If you're struggling to pay rent, do what you can to remove risk and cut down on costs. One thing that helps is aiming to have savings. Often times, its cheaper to have money up front to resolve emergencies rather than later.

Car is one of those things that can make sense to remove. If you're commuting one hour already by car, and there's no public transit option then a car is a necessity. If you can take public transit, that could save you money on car insurance, car payments, car maintenance, and possible accidents.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

i don't know anyone who can keep their living expenses at 30%.. is this finance tips for well-off childless people?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Use credit cards as cash, and pay off the balance weekly. This protects your bank account from fraud, as chargebacks and fraud are more easily dealt with on credit, and they tend to have better account monitoring and security than banks and credit unions. Even better if you have a cash-back/points card, that’s basically free money.

This also makes it easy to track spending if you have specific purpose credit cards. E.g, one card for groceries and gas, another for recurring bills or service payments, another for frivolous stuff, etc.

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Even if you have no other investments, open a high yield savings account and keep the bulk of your funds there, other than what you need for a general emergency fund and monthly bills. Current yields are over 4%, generally better than inflation, without any risk.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In order to save money, you have to start putting money back, even if you consider yourself too poor to save. Every time you get paid put $X aside and don't touch it until it's enough to do something with

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

And then don't do anything with it other then invest it some more

Don't buy anything unless you're u can pay for it in full cash, you don't need to use cash but it's a good way to be prepared

I treat my accounts like hit points in a game. The higher it is, the more health i have.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (9 children)

VoIP is cheaper than cell service.

Vinegar is a good cleaning agent.

A hard drive at home is way cheaper than cloud storage.

Tailgating burns more gas.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (9 children)

If you don't touch an account for 7 years, it disappears from your credit report. That means NO ACTIVITY at all. No usage of the card, no payments, no nothing.

There are some debts that this does not apply to, like school loans, but I know it works on credit cards.

Now, here's the real world disclaimer. During those 7 years, your credit will TANK. You will have a hell of a time trying to finance a Happy Meal. If you have good credit, it will take another 5-7 years to get it back to where it was. But, if your credit is already trash, and you can't afford to pay every bill, it is an option that could get you back within your means.

Is it ethical? I figure the system itself isn't ethical, so stealing back from the ones who take advantage of others doesn't bother me one bit, but I totally understand if someone would disagree.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

You will have a hell of a time trying to finance a Happy Meal.

I don't know much about finance, but don't do this!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You sure about that? I have a friend who thought that too but found out 7 years later that only a bankruptcy will disappear after 7 years, not just idle delinquint accounts. He needed to actually file for bankrupcy to make it go away. This was in Usa, NY; maybe it's different other places.

As a second "data" point: I have some accounts on my credit report that have not been touched in a decade+ yet they are still there (they are not delinquent).

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

We have a credit card that gives 6% cash back on groceries, 3% on gas and some discounts on streaming services. It blows my mind that every few months I can cash out a $200 or so credit towards my balance. I needed to buy those things anyway and have autopay set to the full balance each month so it really is free money. So if you can get one, absolutely a credit card that gives cash back. The one I mentioned is Amex Blue Cash Preferred but there other options out there that give other bonuses, like 2% back on everything or 6% back on something up to a certain cap.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Credit cards are an excellent tool IF you are responsible with credit.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

For me it's a matter of my mentality. I have tried to get away from the spending mentality. As soon as you get money you start thinking of ways to spend it. You should be thinking of ways to save it. I usually try to think of something that is important to me. For me I like to go out and see the world. That means buying gas. If I spend $5 on a cup of coffee that's about 20 mi I can't drive. As others have stated you got all these streaming media sites and stuff. If you add that all up over a years time is quite a bit of money. You should get rid of anything you don't need. There are two ways to have more money: Make more or spend less.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I really wish there was a personal finance community on Lemmy. Then reading that would be a good lpt.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I almost created one but I do not have the time or temperment to moderate a community that will likely get very big

If we could get 3 or 4 other people to agree to mod, I'm game

I was mod of a large personal finance community on reddit. I know very little about non US personal finance though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Got some bad marks on your credit, even a 30-day late ding? Dispute them, even if they're legit.

Americans can request a free credit report every year, from all 3 credit reporting agencies. Mark everything negative as, "wasn't me". The debtor has 30-days to respond, if they don't, fuck 'em, it's off your record.

Worst case? They come back and say the challenge was verified as false. Oh well.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

If you’re worried about auto charges emptying your account when you need the cash for more immediate things, have another account where you can stash some money so it’s always accessible.

For example, this week I knew I was gonna get a big charge and didn’t have the $$ to cover it. But it was pre-authorized, and it was going to go through and put me to negative.

So I moved gas money (required for earning money) into my Chime account, so I could keep earning when my main account went negative.

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