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The average brain weighs 1300-1400 grams. If 0.5% of that is plastic by weight, your brain contains 6.5 - 7 grams of plastic. The average plastic credit card weighs 5 grams.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/aug/21/microplastics-brain-pollution-health

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Jesus christ. I really thought that headline was exaggerated, but no, the brain samples they tested actually ended up being 0.5% plastic by weight. That's seriously disturbing, I really would have thought the blood-brain barrier would do a better job of keeping plastics out.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago (2 children)

For every kilometer you drive, your tires shed 1 trillion plastic particles. 78% of microplastics in the ocean are from tires.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What are you suggesting? That I stop peeling out of every parking lot and doing sick doughnuts!?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

What I'm saying is that we need to figure out to make tires out of some unholy bamboo/cheese composite.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What if the roads were rubber and the tires were asphalt?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

This was in a cartoon with the Flintstones once!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Or just go back to unvulcanized rubber

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Then it would be like 10x more particles....?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

They wouldn't be plastic and would be biodegradable, which is likely a step in the correct direction.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

But the oil products! We gotta make the oil billionaires more billions!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

10-4, rolling coal instead to impress potential sexual partners.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe switching most of the transportation to steel tires on steel roads would help with this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago

Neuroplasticity makes so much more sense to me now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How does one become an anti plastic advocate? How do I target plastic specifically? Are some plastics better than others?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It comes from car tires, single-use plastics teflon pans, and plastic food containers. Plastic items that are meant to last a long time aren’t shedding as much.

So if you want to reduce your microplastic contributions, avoid driving, avoid single-use plastics, don’t buy non-stick pans, and use glass food containers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's also carpeting, synthetic fibers from clothing, PVC and PEX piping for water supply, paint, etc. The one that gets me is the plastic Brita filter pitcher. This thing is supposed to clean my water.

It took us decades to get to this point and it'll take us more time to back out of it. And we have to start somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do PVC and PEX pipes/multiple use plastic containers (like the Brita pitcher) actually release microplastics? I’m aware of evidence that PEX pipes leach chemicals (also very bad), but I can’t find anything showing they increase microplastics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Chlorinated water adversely affects PEX pipes. I don't know that the amount of microplastics or nanoplastics has been quantified in a study yet.

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.9b03673

The mechanical properties and lifetime of PEX were reduced after exposure to chlorinated water. (6) Prompted by concerns about the effect of chlorine dioxide on the chemical integrity of pipe materials, the pressure, tensile strength, and oxidation induction time were evaluated at constant temperature to assess the damage to pipe samples after exposure to chlorine dioxide for one year. (7) Overall, pipe aging due to long-term disinfectant exposure could cause decreased antioxidant contents; increased crystallinity; chain rupture; hydroxyl, carbonyl, and/or vinyl group production; and visible cracks in pipe walls.

Can such an aging process lead to MP and/or NP leaching into the drinking water network? On the basis of aging mechanisms and material performance characteristics, we propose that MPs and/or NPs can be leached from aging pipes.

The Brita pitcher comment is about my own growing paranoia about plastics that get scratched or cracked. I don't know the conditions and time line under which this particular formulation of plastic keeps it from shedding MPs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the information, I too am somewhat paranoid about plastics and chemicals leaching into my food/drink.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

While you're at it, make sure you're reducing your energy usage so you can stop climate change. Don't worry about Shell or ExxonMobil, I'm sure they're doing their best. And if we keep politely letting them know that climate change makes us sad I'm sure they'll give up their stranglehold on energy production so we can live happier, healthier lives! /S

In case it wasn't clear, treating huge environmental problems isn't a personal responsibility thing. We need legislation, and that isn't going to happen without drastic action.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Ya just kinda scream into the void on the Internet while the plastic industry bribes... Er... Lobbies congress into not giving a shit.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

0.5% of our brains being plastic is pretty shocking.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Agreed. Nevermind all the other places they've found plastic pollution in our bodies.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

OK but what's the limit on that card

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Mine was declined and won't come out of the ATM.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Now that you have told me something kinda useless tell me how much longer is my shlong due to mycroplastic 🤔😏

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

It's likely causing your erectile disfunction, even if it tripled it's size.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If your erection lasts longer then 4 hours... Nice.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

“I'm a Barbie girl in a Barbie world”….

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

With your fully automatics!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Don't give Elon Musk any more ideas please

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't think this is true

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What information did I present that was untrue? I guess technically there's more plastic in your brain than required to make a plastic credit card.

Here's additional supporting research.

https://lemmy.world/comment/11941207

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

From my understanding of the study they used an unverified method on a small part of the brain to get the amount of plastic in the entire brain. Which can be misleading because if you only look at the parts of the brain that are microplastics, the brain is 100% plastic. There hasn't been widespread replication of the results yet either nor has the paper been peer reviewed.

I'm sceptical especially with the microplastic doomer narrative going around. As far as I know the danger of microplastics on the human body is yet to be determined. But it's definitely alarming I just don't think it's responsible to be saying there's a credit card in your brain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

That first paragraph is fair enough.

I'd disagree that the microplastic doomer narrative is incorrect, the plastic in the brain is just the newest tidbit. It's already in our kldneys, testicles, placentas, blood, semen, livers and lungs. Even if this study is wrong (which I don't think it is, because its on trend with plastic contamination growth in the rest of our bodies) about how much plastic there is specifically in brains, there's still easily a credit cards worth in our bodies.

Microplastics are killing worms, it is contaminating soil, it is hurting crops, it is killing fish, and studied effects of plastic on other mammals are bad, to the point it seems pointless to confirm it hurts humans in specific ways before doing something about it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you lack reading comprehension, or are you just in denial?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I gave the study a read. It's in preprint, it's yet to be peer reviewed and the method they used is atypical. Yeah I think disbelief is a pretty reasonable response since it's hard to imagine that much plastic wouldn't be making noticeable changes in behavior/physiology. But it's possible and the research seems rigorous

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

That's a pretty reasonable take 👍