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On Wednesday evening, Ukrainian MP Oleksiy Honcharenko said the Ukrainian army had established control over the Sudzha gas hub - a major gas facility involved in the transit of natural gas from Russia to the EU via Ukraine, which has continued despite the war. It is the only point of entry for Russian gas into the EU. 

Although this has not been verified by the BBC, Mr Honcharenko's comment was the first confirmation of an incursion into Russian territory by a Ukrainian official. Kyiv had previously not commented on reports of a cross-border attack.

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[–] [email protected] 304 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Earlier, President Vladimir Putin accused Ukraine of launching a "major provocation" 

How dare they provoke the people who have been relentlessly attacking their country for two and a half years.

[–] [email protected] 160 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ten and a half. And that’s only if we discount Tuzla island dispute and continuous attempts to take control of politics and economy.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Euromaiden was in 2013 somehow. How has it been that long

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'll never forget watching the live feed almost every night for weeks. Then Simon reporting from the front during the Russian invasion for Vice.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

I remember a video interview with a Ukrainian soldier and a bomb fell near them, while still smoking a cigarette he just casually picks up a piece of hot shrapnel to show the camera and drops it like he was mildly annoyed about being interrupted.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fucking Russian psychos use the majority of their missiles on civilian targets and now suddenly Putin has a problem with (alleged! I frankly don't believe it for one second) “indiscriminate shooting from various types of weapons, including missiles, at civilian buildings, residential buildings, and ambulances.”

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

This is mobile warfare with a veteran, armored brigade using a mix of latest and greatest Western gear. If they had trouble before, this is going to be a nightmare for them. Oh and those F-16s just got into service.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago

Rules for thee but not for me

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago

Bullies always go cry to the teacher when someone hits back

[–] [email protected] 103 points 3 months ago

Fuck russia.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's just a military exercise. Don't worry ruzzians. All is going to be fine.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago

Special military operation.

Nothing to worry about.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 months ago

War is horrific in many ways, and in most cases its the innocent who suffer. Lets keep that in mind.

Saying that - Fucking lol. You fucked around, time to find out.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 months ago (12 children)

The acting regional governor, Alexei Smirnov

Come on. That's a made up name.

The Governor of Texas isn't "John Hamburger".

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Professional racing driver Dick Trickle would like a word with you

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

80s SF Giants player Dick Burns would, as well.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

What about the Nazi-sponsored English motor-racing legend, Dick Seaman.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Leave Mr hamburger alone!

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Ukraine should create a referendum to annex the entire Kursk region. Russia says it's legal to do so.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago

Russia needs to cede that territory in the interests of peace.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

RuZZia: [Invades Ukraine]

Ukraine: [UNO reverse card]

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I heard they did a vote and the population of Kursk overwhelmingly voted to join Ukraine nod nod

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

152% of the residents support the annexation so...

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This will be interesting. Either Putin goes back on his word and mobilizes more people into his special military operations to bolster the defenses. Or he seems weak for allowing Russia to be invaded.

Good dilemma.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Putin goes back on his word and mobilizes more people into his special military operations to bolster the defenses

This would be easy to spin, it's no longer a special operation it's become a war of survival against the Ukrainian Nazis and their gay Jewish NATO allies, the very thing our lord and saviour Putin was trying to prevent with the special operation!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Sure it could be.. but still... It would require moscovites to be drafted.. and that would make the whole war more real for them. I'd imagine Ukraine would then spend some extra attention to these battalions, to drive the point home.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

Russian ultranationalists have gone on vacation until further notice.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I wonder how many operatives they're going to sneak into the country through this raid to do longer term damage via reconnaissance and sabotage. Plenty of opportunity with all this chaos and the ability to bring a large amount of supplies to stash things.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I imagine the distraction is the main goal.

Looking at the map:

  • Russia tried to stretch Ukraine with a distraction near Kharkiv
  • so now Ukraine is trying to stretch Russia with a distraction yet further north

I don’t know what value that region may have to the war effort if either side but this initial attack seemed well targeted

It’ll be interesting to see Europe’s reactions when they turn off the gas flow, and force Europe to stop being hypocrites

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Weirder than that, it can't be easily bombed without permanently disabling Russia's ability to earn revenue. If Ukraine just sits on it they can hold Russia economically hostage indefinitely.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

Finally some excellent development. Time to Make Putin into Poutine.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why would they want to control the gas facility?

[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is the only point of entry for Russian gas into the EU.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (5 children)

But that gas goes through Ukraine. They could have stopped it at any time.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Cut off tail of snake and it will eventually grow back. Cut off head of snake and it cannot grow back.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Everybody beheading snakes until the octopus arrives.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Yeah then you just remove the beak

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

?

By blowing it up and causing an ecological disaster in their own country?

There should be cut off valves where they could have done it safely, but this is Russian built, they used positive power coefficients on their nuclear power plants...

You can't count on common sense safety measures.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Sabotaging a gas line does a lot to damage your own position because natural gas is VERY toxic. Controlling the source though is ALL power

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

That's a direct pipeline, it seems. Goes straight to the EU.

There's a different pipeline (maybe several, not sure) going through Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sabotage all the metering, etc. and let Ukraine and EU receive as much as they can for free.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

If they cut it off they remove the one entry point of gas into the EU crippling the export.

Im sure the EU wouldnt be very happy either but they diversified over the last 2 years away from russian gas.

On the other hand holding it also opens the door for concessions from Russia.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most of the EU is fine with it, it's basically just the governments of Hungary and Slovakia throwing a hissy fit

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fucking Wah Wah.

Those countries had a chance to be on the right side of history, and they screwed the pooch. Enjoy freezing in a couple of months.

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