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[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 months ago (3 children)

No one wants Shapiro. Which means she will probably pick Shapiro. The dems always sabotage themselves.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m worried about this too. As a Jew I feel pretty weird about this whole thing. I’m generally against Israel and everything they do, and frankly I don’t care about having the first Jewish VP. Harris is already married to a Jew, and based on the rampant antisemitism that has only been growing over the last few years, I don’t think the country is ready for or would ultimately want a Jew first in line to the presidency. Doesn’t make it right, but winning is more important right now.

I think outside of elite circles, antisemitism is way worse than those in the circles think. I’m worried they don’t take the antisemites seriously enough nor do they realize just how antisemitic completely “normal” people are capable of being.

For example, over the last few weeks in my liberal Northern California community, there has been a group leaving antisemitic fliers (I’m talking swastikas and everything) on cars in parking lots. Antisemites are everywhere, regardless of whether or not Israel is currently committing genocide.

We need to win, firsts be damned.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

It's not anti-Semitism to say you don't want to support someone that supports the State of Israel. An anti-Israel Jew would get a whole lot of support I think.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

I do have a sinking feeling it will be Shapiro for much of those same reasons.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people want Shapiro, actually. Though I would absolutely pick Walz any day

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People under Citizens United, maybe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean, it's irresponsible to think our lemmy bubble is representative of anything. A ton of people think Shapiro is a good pick, though a lot of them either don't know about the Palestine opinions (pretty sure most people didn't know until very recently as it is) and they think it would help with PA

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Non American here. Bernie’s an independent now?

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He's always been independent but caucuses with the Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

You have a two-party system and Independents almost never get anywhere. Bernie is the exception in that regard. Consequently they have to work with one of the other two parties if they want to actually accomplish anything.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Independent since 1981, but he's unsuccessfully run in the Democratic primaries for President.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Interesting! He gets lumped in with democrats doesn’t he.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago

Sometimes yes. And the Democrats work against him if he gets popular.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Largely because he caucuses with them for things like who controls the senate, etc.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago

He's independent when the party screws him over, he's a Democrat when the party wants progressives to like them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

he’s saying for a potential Harris running mate

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I got that, was just surprised to see “(I-Vermt)” after his name. Thought it would be Democrat. Deep respect for the guy, this just adds to it for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

The guy is one of the best politicians of our lifetime. Always fighting for the people, genuinely. We coulda had so much in 2016 if not for the DNC.