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[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Makes sense, considering cryptobros seem to want "get rich easy" and the orange dumpster fire certainly panders to that demographic.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I feel sad for a lot of people in crypto. There's a certain sense or feeling of disenfranchisement among the American people, which is how people like Trump gain favor in society. Trump promises you everything and lies about all he takes away. He's seen after all as some "alternative to the establishment", an establishment that has exploited and fucked over the people over and over again. In a sense, this disenfanchisement, economic disenfranchisement affects people into crypto. Never underestimate the power that poverty and economic hardship has in making desperate people delusional.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Trump is a rich old white racist man with no talent who made money off daddy's fortune.

He's the embodiment of the establishment. This makes sense since that's what they want to go back to.

They forget that's what led them here.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And crypto bros spent the last decade hoarding bitcoin as a means to decentralize the currency, only to shill for next coming of Nazi dictatorship

Cognitive dissonance is strong among cryptofascists

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

That's not what cryptofascist meannnnnnsssss

On the other hand, the old kind stopped hiding and just became regular fascists.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Confirming that Bitcoin is a scam.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dunning Kruger effect is big in this one.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

much of crypto is a scam...bitcoin is not. blackrock and fidelity are just two companies who are heavily invested in its success. the media shouldn't portray bitcoin along with other crypto, but it does. it's too bad.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sorry, Bitcoin is a scam. Blockchain technology is not a scam, but 99% are simply because they have little to no utility; their value is entirely speculative. Bitcoin is not anonymous, transactions take forever, are more expensive than banks (for transferring normal sums of money), and the energy required to secure the network is a non-starter. It's like calling a Model-T the best car ever made. Monero is the best cryptocurrency implementation so far, because it is the opposite of all of Bitcoin's failures I just listed — that's why governments around the world are trying to delist and outlaw it, and block institutional investment in it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

Things aren’t scams just because they aren’t efficient or really good.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)
  1. it's pseudo anonymous and that doesn't make it a scam. it actually is a great way to track transactions and protect privacy at the same time.

2.transactions take about 8-10 mins.. this makes it a better store of value than spending cash. However, this has been remedied with a 2nd layer application called Lightning Network. And again, this doesnt make it a scam.

  1. more expensive for some, less for others. for instance, it is a very cheap way to transfer money overseas like for many immigrants who support their families in their native country. where Western Union would take a large cut just to move the money, Bitcoin accomplishes the same exact thing, for pennies.

Maybe you mean you just don't like Bitcoin? That's fair, doesn't make it a scam. Maybe you prefer more anonymous cryptos like monero? That's fair also, still doesn't make Bitcoin a scam.

Personally I prefer Bitcoin because it's decentralized. Nobody owns it or controls it. The people closest to the money printer don't have an advantage over the common people who save in it. Not to mention you aren't surrendering your purchasing power to the government via inflation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You missed the biggest points, it has no utility and its value is entirely speculative.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Secure time stamps

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's not "decentralized." That's a buzzword. Anyone buying into that after all these years is a fool.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

except it actually is decentralized. anybody can run a node and contribute and the network adjusts to how many people are contributing.

calling it a "buzzword" and calling people "fools" or whatever doesn't change this fact.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When it comes to privacy and anonymity Monero would be king. The FBI and NSA has demonstrated that Bitcoin is not as "private" as many claims.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

agreed. if you want to keep your dealings completely anonymous, definitely go with monero.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

He can't even pander all that well. When he spoke to them, he ended his speech with this

"Have a good time with your bitcoin and your crypto and everything else that you're playing with"

https://archive.is/RjUSc

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

If you ever needed more proof that all crypto is a scam...Trump is pushing it, so...scam.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

...But bitcoin is doing just fine as it is...? It's up overall, year over year. The only thing that's not great about it right now is that exchanges (like Coinbase and Circle) have to report how much you have and move around, for tax purposes.

I've got a relatively small amount of bitcoin that I'm holding on to; it's been holding value, relative to the US dollar. So what are they saying *isn't" great...?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Bitcoin gets thrown in with the other cryptos. people who don't know what they're talking about also do this thanks to the media. Bitcoin is most definitely not a scam.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Needs more ellipses and statements ending with a question mark.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

...it does?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cryptocurrency scams, Trump scams... They belong together.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Can’t wait for them to lose all their money

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

You're right. I was overwhelmed by your staggering ignorance. Lol.