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    [–] [email protected] 186 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)
    [–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You didn't opt for Linux pro?? Starting at $49.99

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

    Ubuntu pro says hi /s

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    I have a laptop with Ubuntu that won't let me upgrade any of the actually important packages unless I pay for Ubuntu pro.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    You know that Pro is actually free for something like 5 computers

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago
    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

    Linux pro

    Isn't that just RHEL?

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago
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    [–] Vuraniute 88 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Not only TiVO, IIRC Tecno (the phone company) is in violation of the GPL-2.0 too by not providing device trees.

    [–] [email protected] 74 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Tons of companies are shipping Linux without giving users access to the source code, it's just that only one has the term "Tivoization" named after it.

    [–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Huh, Linux uses GPLv2? Does anyone have any info about why?

    Edit: Found a video https://youtu.be/PaKIZ7gJlRU. Makes sense. Complete freedom to use and modify the software means freedom to use the software in a proprietary device with DRM, as long as you still give the changes to the public.

    [–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago

    Thats false! There is already a link to the wikipedia article, but here is the relevant quote: „but uses hardware restrictions or digital rights management (DRM) to prevent users from running modified versions of the software on that hardware.“

    It is not a violation of the GPL 2, the license of the Linux kernel, but only the GPL 3 which was basically created for this case. Linus Torvalds is a big defender of the GPL 2 and said that Tivo provided good patches for the hardware they used.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

    Speaking of violators, North Korea is in violation of GPL 2.0 since they didn't provide me the source code of the kernel when I asked for them for it.

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    [–] [email protected] 83 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I love one of the clauses of gplv3 where if a user does not follow the gpl you may deny them their ability to use it forever.

    Would be funny to strike Nintendo with that. Or any other company that likes suing people work.

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Have Nintendo ever used GPL software?

    [–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago

    Probably on Nintendo switch because of the hardware they use. But no idea at all. It was just an example.

    Companies want to enforce their licences strictly but when free software community asks them they are like: "ups mistake, sorry, forgive us".

    Free software licences should be respected with the same degree as they so with privative ones.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    They use xmpp as their messaging system I think. Xmpp is open source, but I am not sure about the licence used.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

    XMPP is a protocol, the GPL covers software implementing these protocols. They could use their own proprietary XMPP client and server without any legal issues.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    They use WebKit that uses a rendering engine, JavaScript engine underLGPLv2.1 in the switch.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

    If it's LGPL, it might be ok depending on how they use it

    [–] [email protected] 81 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    In other words, it is an authorized copy.

    [–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Well now did Mister Torvalds come to my house and expressly say that I could use it?

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

    I don't think that's convenient for him. Let's email him for his consent.

    [–] [email protected] 60 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my penguin go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Reporting back... It was a good movie actually. I always assumed it was going to be silly or over the top but it was pretty believable and cathartic to watch these terrible bad guys get their shit ruined.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    So, you would recommend it to the average viewer?

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

    If you're squeamish about violence or sex crimes (not seen directly) then maybe not but otherwise yes

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I have never seen that movie but this was the last straw. I'm gonna watch it now haha

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago

    Seems like he'd prefer v3 then.

    [–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I clicked on this because I thought it was gonna be a spoopy jumpscare anti-piracy screen but I was pleasantly surprised.

    There are a disturbing amount of little kids posting homemade anti-piracy screens for things that are free.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    I came across a bunch of those recently, which is how I came up with the idea for this, as a parody :)

    Internet horror is disappointingly un-creative. I have no idea why the weakest works (sonic.exe, anti-piracy, kill screens) always end up becoming huge trends, or why so few people try to put a significant twist on said trends.

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    [–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

    You wouldn't download a Linux kernal..

    Would you?

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    What a confused image.

    1. TiVo complied with the GPLv2 and distributed source code for their modifications to Linux. What they did not do was distribute the cryptographic keys which would allow TiVo customers to run modified versions it on their TiVo devices. This is what motivated the so-called anti-tivoization clause in GPLv3 (the "Installation Information" part of Section 6. Conveying Non-Source Forms.).
    2. Linux remains GPLv2, so, everyone today still has the right to do the same thing TiVo did (shipping it in a product with a locked bootloader).
    3. Distributing Linux (or any GPLv2 software) with a threat of violence against recipients who exercise some of the rights granted by the license, as is depicted in this post, would be a violation section 6 of GPLv2 ("You may not impose any further restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein.").
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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Which system/distribution/device does show this message?

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I think this is fabricated but still very true

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

    Yeah, it's fake, and as other commenters have pointed out, it's also inaccurate to how the GPLv2 works. It was not meant to convince anyone.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

    So it actually is authorized

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    isn't mac based on Linux also?

    [–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    OS X is (at this point loosely) based on BSD. I think you can still get Darwin (the open source part of OS )X somewhere...

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/xnu

    Though if we are using the brand UNIX, macos is one of the few UNIX brand products out there

    https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/

    The BSD family has evolved, and while not having the Unix trademark, does have its roots in the same codebase

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

    That's funny, because XNU stands for X is not Unix

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

    Ql wallpaper.

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