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Water mountains are my new favorite concept

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[–] [email protected] 145 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think they're onto something. In fact, these water mountains seem to be so common, it might just be one big water mountain that covers the whole planet, and is so big it eventually wraps around and meets itself at the bottom.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago

No no no. That would NEVER work! See, what's actually happening is the lizardmen are driving these ships, and taking them to the pirate ports where they sell everything. Thats when they buy evrn MORE drugs, and Steve said I can have some of the drugs. So I started eating these gummies, but it turns out they're just regular gummy bears. They're still good though. I would trade you some of my gummy bears for some actual gummies, but I have misplaced my pants....

[–] [email protected] 87 points 4 months ago (5 children)

There are "hills" on the sea. I doesn't prove that Earth is not also round.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_surface_topography

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Yep. This is due to variations in the gravitational magnitude at any point from the earth, moon, sun, and other bodies, as well as the periodicity of the earth/moon/sun rotations interacting with friction (between the sea and the sea, the sea and the atmosphere, and the sea and the lithosphere), and creating a giant standing wave (which is constantly changing, like an instrument or a musical composition) of ocean water all over the earth. This doesn't even take into account atmospheric pressure and water temperature/viscosity variations. The earth is a complex system with waves upon waves upon waves of interacting coupled oscillations all interfering with each other. Whoa 😳

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Shhh.

You’re gonna make their brains hurt.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

TIL, thank you

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 4 months ago

Wait I have a meme for this (and absolutely no one is surprised):

[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 months ago

Yeah, Mount Horizon covers the entire planet

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago (6 children)

They have to be trolling, right? There's no way a flat earther thinks water can bend like that.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"the earth is flat since water is always level, oh except water mountains"

Actually, i could imagine a flat earther would say that now that i think about it

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

Yeah, you're right. Why am I expecting any soft of consistency in their train of thought. lol

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

What is a tide if not a wide and mobile water hill?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Also nowadays we have such accurate satellites that we can actually see the tiny increases in elevation of the sea level that reflect the topology of the sea floor.

Satellites notice the tiny "water mountains" which indicate the topology of the sea floor, and then they scan the place better with equipment on boats.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/may/25/more-than-5000-new-species-discovered-in-pacific-deep-sea-mining-hotspot

But yeah, I really think "water mountains" is a bit on a exaggeration to that phenomena.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Now that you asked, I wonder how flat earthers explain tides.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

water mountains

....water mountains...

like... gotta be a troll. please.

I want to know there isn't a single person on this planet that is that fucking dumb.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is a tide not a kind of water hill?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

There no way an earther could water bend either, unless they’re the avatar or something.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago (4 children)

This is what fundamental scientific illiteracy gets you.

When you have no reference point for how the world around you works anything makes sense.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Temporary water mountains don’t count.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Not sure how permanent these are nowadays.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

All mountains are temporary, it's just a matter of timescale

(edit: fun fact, the Appalachian mountain range is older than trees!)

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago

I believe in water mountain. Just one of it. And it's round. That's why ships always disappear the same distance away if your height is the same, and why they disappear further away if you're higher up, again with a predictable relationship. The water mountain surrounds two thirds of the earth, and goes all the way around the round earth.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I don't think this guy got the memo: the flat earth argument is that water finds its own level. "Large bodies of water don't curve" as they say.

They believe that the ships don't actually disappear and that the strong zoom of a Nikon P1000 can actually bring ships back from behind the "curve".

They're a very special set of people 👍

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

strong zoom of a Nikon P1000 can actually bring ships back from behind the “curve”.

wow, observation effects, these people are quantum idiots.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yo I think I gotta add this to my D&D campaign setting

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Ken M, is that you? (i hope so!)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I have never met a flat earther, but if I did and she was hot I'd see what else I could convince her to believe.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

It's fantastic for the skin, I swear, I saw it in Oprah.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's a simple reason why you have to make up water mountains to picture the horizon:

Scale issue.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I refuse to accept ships disappear behind something because I have never seen a ship disappear behind anything.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

In my extensive experience of watching ships (I live near the coast and near a nationally significant port), I find that by the time they're far enough away to be disappearing, they're also small, indistinct and hazy. I can't honestly tell you that in many years of looking, I've ever seen a clear cut case of the bottom of the ship disappearing before the top. It's all very indistinct indeed.

If you want to convince flat earthers, the ship past the horizon thing isn't going to do it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

There is no convincing them through any kind of logic or observation. The logical proof of the shape and size of the earth is remarkably simple and straightforward, with math any trigonometry or geometry student could prove on their own. Eratosthenes did it a few thousand years ago with observations from a deep well and the shadow of a vertical rod a significant and measureable distance apart on the same day at the same time. These are simple and direct observations that anyone could make and repeat themselves. If Eratosthenes proof isn't clear enough to them, nothing will be.

There was even a documentary in which self professed flat-earthers performed a variation of this experiment with some careful arrangement of a laser over a large lake. Unsurprisingly, they did measure the curvature of the earth (with much less precision than Eratosthenes), but they still couldn't accept the results.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Really? I've seen it firsthand quite often. It's very obvious when you're in a kayak, because you're so low to the water.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just a quick question.

How does one go about hiding a ship in a glacier?

Okay. Make that two questions.

Why does one hide a ship in a glacier?!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So that one day, the shape-shifting alien can thaw and gobble up the entire crew of a research station?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

They probably saw it on Interstellar.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

This is such a fascinating concept, because it misses the truth by millimeters. Complete lack of self awareness.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Water mountain, aka an iceberg. Checkmate, atheists.

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