this post was submitted on 28 Jun 2024

98 points (98.0% liked)

the_dunk_tank

15901 readers

638 users here now

It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.

Rule 2: If your source is a reactionary website, please use archive.is instead of linking directly.

Rule 3: No sectarianism.

Rule 4: TERF/SWERFs Not Welcome

Rule 5: No ableism of any kind (that includes stuff like libt*rd)

Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.

Rule 7: Do not individually target other instances' admins or moderators.

Rule 8: The subject of a post cannot be low hanging fruit, that is comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views. Comments/Posts made on other instances that are accessible from hexbear are an exception to this. Posts that do not meet this requirement can be posted to [email protected]

Rule 9: if you post ironic rage bait im going to make a personal visit to your house to make sure you never make this mistake again

founded 4 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

Why would you talk down like this to people you want to vote for you, this is just jacking yourself off! (rant below) (hexbear.net)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

17 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Even if this take wasn't reductive and worthless, guess what, "fascism" is too abstract an issue to count on the majority of voters to go to the polls for. This is an unavoidable material reality. But you don't want to work around it, you just want to spur a circle jerk among you and your hivemind followers about how you "get it" and others don't and you all are the prescient and astute trapped in a world of intellectual lessers.

Fucking morons, I totally get why people go post left if their parents and social circles were all people who talked to each other like this. If you want to call someone stupid and myopic just say that shit, don't pride yourself on avoiding negative politics then do this grating snark bullshit instead.

top 17 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago

Acting like the poverty crisis is about a 30 cents increase on eggs instead of a million dollar increase on housing is disgusting

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bread has pretty much doubled in price. That's the kinda stuff most people riot over.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah when they say a basket of goods has only risen by 20%, I’m like, “what basket of goods?” Not mine, that’s for sure.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

For a while there IIRC the "basket of goods" excluded food, housing, and transportation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Fact check: President Biden has worked tirelessly to improve the cost of average American household’s monthly television purchase

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I think that was just Paul Krugman taking an already cherry-picked CPI to the logical conclusion (not that he realized it, to be clear).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Also at 20% that's like an extra $200 a month minimum

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Don't know who that dude is but I read it as yanks'll get fascism either way

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This was my original read too. But on second read I realise he's trying to say that just Trump is fascism so people are stupid for considering voting for Trump in the pursuit of cheaper food.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Yeah they just get to “decide” which fascism

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

America doesn't have a fascist movement per se because their politics have been mainstreamed for decades, baby! And they have no left to crush. It's pure fascistic liberalism all the way down and your federal political choices are either that or a more confused and braying form of that struggling to find a reactionary populist oppositional angle and failing (the reactionary angle is already in power you can't meaningfully struggle against it). Which flavor of false consciousness would you like to spend months agonizing over, fellow liberal?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

This is legitimately why they have to call the democrats Marxists. They need a stand-in for their historical enemy.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

Ok, and if consumer goods was a reason why the election will go to Trump, why have you done NOTHING about it for four years?

It's damn obvious that a good amount of this hyperinflation is porky throwing a four year long tantrum to try to get people to vote republican, so just jail them for election interference or something, or use this precedent to aid in unionization. After all, these are porkies working together for their class interests, anti-union laws therefore make no sense if unionized capital is ok but not unionized labor.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

These are the same "moderate" voters that Biden is trying to woo by being as racist as Trump is regarding immigrants.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

This is some illiterate bullshit. If you listen to the rhetoric on both sides, they are literally both claiming that if they don't win, then fascism wins and it's the end of American democracy.

Nobody is even thinking about 'will fascism take thirty cents off my eggs'.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

no they're right, and also you probably care more about electoralism than the person in the screenshot, which is an L.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

My go-to these days is to put on my best "just fell off the turnip truck" voice and ask "Fascism? What's that? I've never heard of it." And then just keep asking basic materialist questions in response to the Narnia-ass vibes based speech you'll get in return until the other person has angrily demonstrated a total void of knowledge about what fascism is.