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[–] [email protected] 64 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've said this before... if you hate Biden's policy on Israel and Gaza, Trump will be even worse!

Remember when Israel illegally invaded Lebanon to set up "a security zone"?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_occupation_of_Southern_Lebanon

Yeah, Trump wants to do that with Mexico.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-mexico-military-cartels-war-on-drugs-1234705804/

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’m a said this before… You can hate both.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sure, you can hate both, but unless you want Trump policies here, you have to vote Biden.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

More to the point, in a FPTP + EC, a failure to vote for the candidate you hate least in certain states gives the candidate you hate more a better chance of winning the presidency.

While the propagandists would have us believe otherwise, this is not "supporting 'genocide'." It's just math.

Do you live in Illinois? Idaho? Vote for whoever you want. Illinois is going to send its electors for Biden, and Idaho is going to send its electors for Trump, and your vote is not going to change that. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona? Check yourself before you wreck fucking everything.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

And even if you live in Idaho, stop telling people on the internet to abstain!!!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yup! But not knowing the state someone is posting from, way easier to go "Vote Biden!"

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

They're probably posting from Russia.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Local and state elections also matter. Watching Trump deal with a Dem Congress might even be amusing. But yeah, vote Biden because Trump already fucked up the Supreme Court enough.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

Where’s all the tankies that post “Genocide Joe” comments? Voting for Joe makes you complicit?

They always leave out trump policy. Avoiding voting for Biden or choosing to vote for trump does far worse.

Edit: found ‘em! Still trying to get people to not vote.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (3 children)

If this horror continues until January, Gaza is already gone. I don't even know what the fuck they would do if it stops today. He had the chance to be better and he fucked it up. I actually believed he would be better than this.

Obligatory yes you should still vote for Biden because Trump is obviously worse and undoubtedly the West Bank would be next. Not to mention project 2025. But "horrific" policy is not the best selling point, even when pitted against "even worse" policy. American politics is truly broken.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (17 children)

Every four years the new voters learn how fucked up their country is, and how ignorant their countrymen are, and the smart ones learn they're never going to get to vote for someone who isn't going to continue America's decades-long horrific foreign policy.

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