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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As I was saying Mrs, your children were mauled by a bear, not a lion. They are very different animals, not even in the same family. Also this lion is racist.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They don't have to be "literally the same" for controlled opposition to prevent meaningful change.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Actually I think people who try and paper over important problems with their own party are the ones preventing meaningful change.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We agree on that. I don't, however, expect the US democratic party to represent me and my interests. They represent the ruling class just like nearly every major political party around the world. Electoral politics isn't going to change that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Electoral politics isn’t going to change that.

Yahtzee.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you think it's some kind of gachya that I believe organizing workforces, community activism, and direct action will do more good for people than simply voting once every couple of years? Did I indicate to you at any point that people shouldn't vote for the less fascist party/candidates? The point is not "Don't vote", it's "Meaningful political change will never come if voting is people's only method for enacting said change."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yea, I'm in agreement. Nowhere have I ever said 'don't vote'. I've repeatedly and very loudly said 'voting is not half as important as agitation'

Liberals will constantly parade around polls showing progressive and leftist policies as being 'not popular', and then cry bloody murder when leftists try agitating for them. They'll accuse us of 'both sides'-ing when we point out democrats doing the same shit as republicans, they'll accuse us of being controlled opposition when we protest against democrats supporting fascism abroad, they'll even accuse us of supporting fascism ourselves for holding democrats to the same standard as we hold republicans.

No, it wasn't a 'gotcha', it was 'yahtzee', as in, 'the numbers have aligned and we're somehow in agreement'.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ahh. My miskate, apologies for misunderstanding you!

Edit: and extra apologies for my confrontational tone at your, in retrospect, very benign comment.

Have a great day!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This goes hand-in-hand with political stereotyping and is hard to avoid, annoyingly. (I am just as guilty of stereotyping, admittedly.)

But yeah, common views between parties should be a good thing. Sometimes those views absolutely are not "good", but that is what it is.

Party line voting in Congress is disgusting and it's not how governments should operate. On that note, bills shouldn't be written for the purpose of antagonizing an opposing party. I don't care who wrote it to begin with.

While there is a bit of truth in all politicians being the same, regardless of the party, it doesn't (shouldn't?) apply to ideologies as a whole. Unfortunately, it seems ideologies are dictated by the politicians and not the people, these days.

Ugh. What a twisted web we weave for ourselves....

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you can really get rid of party line voting. Most voters don't want to or cannot spend much time researching politicians and mostly vote based on party preference. Elected representatives therefore need the support of their party for reelection, giving the party leverage.